It's the fourth quarter, and Iowa State and Kansas State were both approaching nightmare territory.
Kansas State had five turnovers and missed a 37-yard field goal, but made a kick from 36 yards to trail 7-3 with just over 10 minutes to play in the game.
Iowa State trailed Northern Iowa by six and quarterback Steele Jantz had three interceptions with just over 10 minutes to play.
Both teams survived, though.
Kansas State used a late touchdown and a late interception from Nigel Malone to beat the Colonels, 10-7.
Iowa State needed a touchdown in the final minute at the goal line to beat the Panthers, 20-19.
Ugly results for both teams, but both could serve as a footnote now, rather than a black eye like Kansas' 6-3 loss to North Dakota State last season.
Jantz finished 18-of-40 for 187 yards and a touchdown, with his three picks.