The next in a long line of terrific 30 for 30 ESPN documentaries takes aim at SMU. "Pony Excess" tells the story of the program's rise and fall and will air Saturday night at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
Dave Wilson, of ESPN.com's Page 2, had a chance to catch up with famed running backs Eric Dickerson and Craig James to talk about how they ended up at SMU and the subsequent perception that they were the poster children for the sanctions that ended up nearly destroying the program.
Here is one exchange between Dickerson and James:
The old teammates talked about the film this week at ESPN and still easily work as a tandem. They finish each other's sentences, laugh at each other's jokes and perhaps even keep each other's secrets. Some of them, you would expect they'd keep after 30 years. Like the mystery of where the new Trans Am came from that Dickerson started driving shortly before arriving at SMU.
"My grandmother bought that for me," Dickerson says softly, smiling and shaking his head.
"I said in the film, Eric will be underground with concrete on top of him ... and he's not saying anything," James said.
"There's nothing to tell," Dickerson repeats, again with a smile.
Both insist they went to SMU because of coach Ron Meyer, and that they were made to be scapegoats for the eventual penalty that was handed down to the program after it was discovered players were paid.
"We were the two name guys that came out of there, everybody knows who we are," James told Wilson. "But I think what the film does is it depicts that it wasn't us, which we've known forever."
Plenty more in the article, so be sure to check it out. And don't forget to tune in Saturday night.