Fisher likens Knicks' start to Giants

Derek Fisher sees some similarities between his New York Knicks and the New York Giants.

The Giants installed a new West Coast offense under a new offensive coordinator this season.

The Knicks are undergoing similar changes, installing a new offense under a new head coach.

“In some ways it’s very similar to what we’re trying to do. We have a lot of new players, a new coaching staff, a new offensive system, new ways of playing defense, so it will take us some time,” Fisher said.

“In no way can we compare ourselves to Super Bowl champions, for sure, because they have that to hang their hat on -- that they can be patient, because they’ve shown it before. But we’re also going to remain committed in that way. That’s what’s great about Tom Coughlin’s leadership over the years. He could’ve given up on doing it the way he thought was best, but they’ve stuck with it and they have the results to show for it.”

Just as the Giants struggled with their offense early on, Fisher’s Knicks struggled while running the triangle offense on Wednesday in their first preseason game.

They shot just 40 percent from the floor and had as many turnovers as made shots (28) in a 20-point loss to the Boston Celtics.

After the loss, J.R. Smith said he thought it would take the Knicks “a few months” to figure out the triangle.

Fisher more or less agreed with that sentiment on Thursday.

“I think individually that curve varies. Some guys are quicker, some guys do take a little more time, but I do think collectively as a group we can expect it to take several weeks,” Fisher said.

It took some time for the Giants to get the West Coast offense down. They started the season 0-2 but have won three straight since.

Fisher hopes the Knicks can follow a similar path.

“It may take us some time to look good doing it, but we still have to figure out how to win right from the start,” he said. “We’re not interested in starting the season and saying just because we’re still getting to know this, it’s OK. We want to be good right away.”

Fish says Knicks "a ways away" from title: In addition to acknowledging that it may take the Knicks some time to learn the triangle, Fisher also pointed out that the Knicks are not close to contending for a title.

It seems that he was acknowledging the obvious for a team that won just 37 games last season.

Fisher made the remark when he was asked how difficult it is to remain patient with the team.

"Regardless of where you are in life our in your career, patience is difficult. Sometimes your immediate feedback doesn't symbolize to you that you're being successful, it's even more difficult," Fisher said. "But you find when you eventually become a champion and look back at all the times adversity hit and all the times you could have given up on the process — that's why you see grown men cry when that old trophy comes out.

"We realize we're a ways away from that. That's not for us right now. But we also realize we're building habits to get to that and that requires patience."

Film session: Fisher spent some time on Thursday watching film of Wednesday’s loss with his players. He found some positives in the film session.

He saw his players “understanding the spots on the floor offensively, understanding the concepts defensively.”

“Until you play a game you have no idea how fast the game is moving, what opponents are going to do. I thought we had some guys who were doing some good things. Collectively we must be better,” Fisher said. “We anticipate that we will as times goes on.”

Question: How long do you think it will take the Knicks to learn the triangle? Do you think the fan base will be patient with the team? Or expect immediate results?

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