Vince Verhei & Doug Kyed

Bill is joined by Vince Verhei of Football Outsiders to discuss Rams-Saints (1:29), the success of the Panthers this season (18:50), the sense of urgency that the Ravens should have regarding Joe Flacco (28:57) and more. Plus, Doug Kyed of NESN stops by to break down what he saw in the Patriots' victory over the Packers on Sunday Night Football (47:28).