That's What She Said with Sarah Spain
370: Jemele Hill: 11/29/22
Journalist, podcaster, and author Jemele Hill joins Sarah to discuss her new memoir Uphill, which details the drug abuse and sexual violence she grew up around, how sports helped her connect with others, how she once tried to reconcile decades old scars between her mother and grandmother over Thanksgiving, and the time she may or may not have pooped herself in a hotel lobby.
369- Jeff Gordinier: 11/22/22
Food critic and author Jeff Gordinier tells Sarah about eating his way across the country to help create Esquire's "Best New Restaurants in America" list, his past gigs writing about music and movies, traveling the world with famed Noma chef Rene Redzipi for his book "Hungry," and the hits and misses of a Thanksgiving spread.
368: Amrit Kaur RE-AIR: 11/15/22
Sarah talks to the breakout star of Mindy Kaling's HBO show Sex Lives of College Girls, Amrit Kaur, about how she fell in love with drama in high school without being able to take drama classes because her parents didn't consider it a serious subject, how much she was sweating during her audition for Sex Lives, what it was like to film a naked party scene, what her parents thought of her sex positive character, a pants ripping story, and how participating in a beauty pageant helped her come to terms with her aesthetic.
367: St. Vincent: 11/8/22
Three-time Grammy winner and superstar rocker Annie Clark AKA St. Vincent joins Sarah to discuss how she broke into the music industry, why Talking Heads leader David Byrne called her mysterious even after touring with her for a year, the time she fronted Nirvana when they were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and the meaning behind her most recent album Daddys Home.
366: Justin Sutherland: 11/1/22
Top Chef alum and cookbook author Justin Sutherland joins Sarah to talk about recovering from a serious boat accident this summer, the release of his first cookbook, a quarter-life crisis that landed him in Costa Rica, his "shut up and dribble" moment and Biggie Smalls-inspired breakfast sandwiches.
365: Brian Windhorst: 10/25/22
ESPN NBA analyst -- and noted Meme Lord -- Brian Windhorst tells #TWSS about his relationship with LeBron, drawing the kind of ire from fans usually reserved for athletes and how news aggregation inspired his most viral moment. Plus, that time he almost died.
364: Catherine Steiner-Adair : 10/18/22
Clinical psychologist, researcher and bestselling author Catherine Steiner-Adair joins Sarah to talk about raising kids in a digital world. Realistic solutions to modern problems, like how to ensure technology is a tool instead of an addiction and how to make sure kids are tech-savvy but also learning humanity, empathy and emotional intelligence.
363: Rick Steves: 10/11/22
Author, TV and podcast host, and travel guidebook legend Rick Steves joins Sarah to talk about how the internet has changed travel, how European cities are bouncing back from COVID restrictions, travel as a political act, the country that his opinion has most changed on over the years, the town that didn't want his attention and getting name-dropped in a dirty SNL bit.
362: Stef Strack: 10/4/22
Sarah talks to Stef Strack, founder and CEO of VOICEINSPORT and former Nike and Rag & Bone exec, about her advocacy for girls and women in sport, her work strengthening Title IX, whether misogyny or a lack of data is at the heart of undervaluing women's sports and how the end of Roe might affect women athletes.
361: Don McPherson: 9/27/22
Sarah talks to legendary Syracuse QB Don McPherson about his new book You Throw Like a Girl: The Blind Spot of Masculinity, the concept of inspirational masculinity, and the empathy and grace required to dig into tough issues and care about the problems of privileged classes.
360: Alexandra Horowitz: 9/20/22
Sarah talks to author and professor Alexandra Horowitz about her wonderful work with dogs, the concept of umwelt, why dogs are like chairs in the eyes of the law and what we should do about it, her new book The Year of the Puppy, and the one thing we should all do more often to make our dogs' lives happier.
359: Old Takes Exposed: 9/13/22
Sarah talks to Fred Segal, the man behind @OldTakesExposed, who shares the origins of the account, how he finds the receipts for cold takes, the reaction he gets from called-out prognosticators, Greg Cote and Adrian Wojnarowski's all-time frozen takes and how the new book, "Freezing Cold Takes: NFL" offers some context for shame mitigation. Plus, a final update from the Do Crew!
358: Taylor Rooks: 9/6/22
Sarah talks to rising star Taylor Rooks about her sports-crazed family, working her first jobs in the sports industry while attending U of I, the lessons she learned at the Big Ten Network and SNY and the joy of asking questions. Plus, her unwavering belief in herself, the funniest, most surprising and most open players she's ever interviewed, sliding into DMs to book guests and her new gig working Thursday Night Football.
357: Brendan Hunt RE-AIR: 8/30/22
Sarah talks to Ted Lasso actor (Coach Beard) and co-creator Brendan Hunt about the success of the show, why it's the most fulfilling job he's ever had, how the show went from a commercial bit to an international hit, and his career in comedy- which included a five year stint in Amsterdam.
356: Kyle Brandt RE-AIR: 8/23/22
Sarah and Good Morning Football's Kyle Brandt discuss how he went from a football playing thespian at Princeton to a cast member on MTV's The Real World. Then how he went from a soap opera actor to producing Jim Rome's radio show and then back in front of the camera for the NFL Network's popular morning show. Plus, his tryout as host for the Manning cast, hosting Frogger, and how and when they first met.
355: Nick Offerman: 8/16/22
Sarah talks to acclaimed actor Nick Offerman about how much of himself ended up in his Parks and Recreation character Ron Swanson, meeting and courting his wife Megan Mullally, the concept of manliness, his woodshop filled with female workers, and his role in the new television series A League of Their Own, which is adapted from the film with new characters and storylines.
354: Dr. Kate Ackerman: 8/9/22
Sarah talks to Dr. Kate Ackerman about why there is such a dearth of research into women's sports, the new investments and initiatives to change that, why women tear their ACLs more than men, the effects of Dobbs on female athletes and competition, the potential of the Wu Tsai Human Performance Alliance, and how the boat named after her won gold at the World Rowing Championships in Italy.
353: Andrew Maraniss: 8/2/22
Sarah talks to NY Times best-selling author Andrew Maraniss about his most recent book Singled Out, which tells the story of Glenn Burke- the first openly gay MLB player who helped bring the Nike brand to baseball, invented the high five, and was beloved in the clubhouse by his teammates, but was run out of baseball by cowardly executives. Sarah also asks Andrew about his path to sports writing, why he writes about the intersectionality of sports and culture, the success of his first book, and his days writing for The (Vanderbilt) Hustler.
352: Kathryn Bertine: 7/26/22
Sarah talks to Kathryn Bertine, a former espnW editor and pro cyclist, about spearheading the movement to bring back a womens Tour de France, her new book "Stand, which chronicles the toll the fight for equality has taken on her and her life, and how she has found the strength to carry on through adversity.
351: Mt. Joy's Matt Quinn: 7/19/22
Sarah talks to Mt. Joy's Matt Quinn about what it's like to be the front man, the Miami Heat like chemistry of the band, how a trip to Joshua Tree helped shape the tenor of their new album Orange Blood, and the band's relationship with Creed from The Office.
350: Brianna Madia: 7/12/22
Sarah talks to author and social media influencer Brianna Madia, whose new book, nowhere for very long, is a New York Times bestseller. It's about her life as a nomad and explorer, her childhood in Connecticut, how her parents' divorce and her father's absence affected her views on life and place, her time living on a boat, the decision to buy a giant beat-up bright orange van and move out west to live in the the canyons of Utah with her husband, their dogs, their adventures, their struggles and the one dramatic, tragic moment that changed everything and ultimately led to the collapse of her picture perfect life of escape.
349: Lucia Aniello: 7/5/22
Sarah talks to Emmy winning writer and director Lucia Aniello about the thrilling success of Hacks, meeting her future husband and creative partner at Upright Citizens Brigade, a pivotal arrest, cutting her teeth on Broad City, and how she managed to squeeze in a wedding, the Emmys and a new baby while making Season 2 of Hacks, which is out now on HBO Max.
348: Abby Wambach: 6/28/22
Sarah talks to soccer legend turned Angel City FC owner Abby Wambach about growing up in a big family, reflecting on big decisions she made during her soccer career, the great perspective she has on the past, the future of women's sports, how we can unlearn societal conditioning, Title IX, and much more!
347: 37 Words: 6/21/22
Sarah talks to Dawn Porter and Nicole Newnham, co-directors of 37 Words, a four-part documentary that tells the inspiring story of Title IX- the hard fought battle to push for equal rights in education and athletics.
346: Title IX Compliance: 6/14/22
Sarah talks to Duke AD Nina King about the three prongs by which a school can remain compliant with Title IX and the difficulties in meeting those requirements, Then she talks to sports historian and professor Victoria Jackson about the many ways schools cook the books, why Title IX was so important for education and sports, and what a new model for college sports could look like, Finally, Sarah talks to Honest Game co-founder Joyce Anderson about the challenges many high schools face in complying with the NCAA rules and ensuring that their student-athletes are eligible to compete collegiately.
345: Mental Health: 6/7/22
Sarah explores mental health in sports by having conversations with three experts. First, NYT best-selling author Kate Fagan whose book What Made Maddy Run covers mental health and suicide, Then Sarah talks to Jessica Bartley, who is the Senior Director of Psychological Services for the US Olympic and Paralympic committees, about working with elite athletes, the stigmas they face to perform, and how she would evaluate the Ben Simmons situation. Finally Sarah talks to her former Cornell track teammate Molly Dickens, a PHD, stress psychologist, and co-founder of &Mother, a nonprofit focused on gender equity and working motherhood.
344: Arshay Cooper and Mary Mazzio: 5/31/22
Sarah talks to author Arshay Cooper about his book A Most Beautiful Thing, which details his childhood on the west side of Chicago and becoming a member of the first African American high school rowing team in the country. Then Sarah chats with documentarian and former US Olympic rower Mary Mazzio about turning Arshay's story into a film. Plus, an update on the Do Crew,
343: Quentin Richardson: 5/24/22
Sarah talks to former NBA player Quentin Richardson about growing up in Chicago, losing three people close to him while in the 7th grade, going to DePaul, getting drafted by the Clippers, signing with Team Jordan, being engaged to Brandy, getting traded four times in one off-season, the Godfather vibes that Pat Riley gives off, and Knuckleheads, the podcast he co-hosts with former teammate Darius Miles.
342: Shermann Dilla Thomas: 5/17/22
Sarah talks to budding Chicago historian Shermann Dilla Thomas who has gained popularity for highlighting the history of Chicago places, events, inventions, and more on his TikTok page (@6figga_dilla). He explains how he originally pitched this idea to his daughter, how his day job at ComEd has gotten him into some places most can't go, where the basis for his deep knowledge about the history of Chicago comes from, and his Netflix pilot.
Chicago Party Aunt: Chris Witaske: 5/10/22
Sarah talks to actor/comedian Chris Witaske about how he turned a Twitter account into a TV show, what it was like working on Curb Your Enthusiasm and Arrested Development, an epic Ditka strip club story, his early roots in comedy, performing magic at birthday parties as a teenager, and his awkward interaction with the comedian he named his dog after.
Amanda Balionis Renner: 5/3/22
Sarah talks to CBS' Amanda Balionis Renner about what it's like to interview Tiger Woods, how her two most embarrassing on-air moments happened on the same day with Dustin Johnson and Phil Mickelson, her early interest in broadcasting and her admiration for Bonnie Bernstein, her make or break moment as a sideline reporter for a Princeton football game, her path to becoming "the golf girl", her recent wedding, and her foundation Puppies and Golf.
Becky Lynch: 4/26/22
Listen to Sarah's interview with WWE super star Becky Lynch from 2019. Becky discusses growing up in Ireland, failing P.E. class, how she got into wrestling, the six year break from wrestling she was forced to take, and why she once cried in a grocery store.
Grand Canyon Adventure: 4/19/22
Sarah recaps her Grand Canyon hike by talking with two people who joined her along on the way. First, a fellow hiker named Randall who did not disclose his triad of medical conditions until the journey was in full force. Then their trusty guide Jeremy, who shares stories of scorpion bites, helicopter rescues, and walking on a broken foot for 18 miles. Plus, an update on the do-crew.
A Different Kind of Dude: River Butcher: 4/12/22
Sarah talks to actor, comedian, and podcaster River Butcher about transitioning during the pandemic, legally changing his name, deciding to get top surgery, and the issues facing the trans community.
Hall of Famer: George Karl: 4/5/22
Sarah talks to former NBA coach George Karl about learning that he'll be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, who he plans to ask to induct him, what it was like facing Michael Jordan the Bulls in the NBA Finals, the reaction to his book Furious George, his relationship with Carmelo Anthony, his multiple bouts with cancer, and why he's hopeful that the NBA will return to Seattle.
Smooth: CJ McCollum: 3/29/22
Sarah talks to Pelicans guard CJ McCollum about the early development of his self-belief, how Lehigh prepared him for his career in the NBA, beating Duke in the NCAA Tournament, going to shopping malls across America with Damian Lillard as young players in the league, getting traded to New Orleans this season, his relationship with Zion Williamson, his podcast, his wine label, and his unpaid role as the president of the NBAPA.
Get Informed on the Issues: Keri Potts: 3/22/22
Listen to Sarah's conversation with former ESPN colleague Keri Potts, who details her own sexual assault experience and then explains the important role that the media plays in the way that sexual assault stories are received by the audience.
Coordinator of Falconry: Adam McKay: 3/15/22
Sarah talks to Oscar nominated director Adam McKay about becoming the head writer at SNL after only being there for a year, the massive success of Gary Sanchez productions, how Funny or Die hit the zeitgeist at the perfect time, why the Don't Look Up experience was the craziest of his career, the difficulty in casting for Winning Time, and his excitement for Bomani Jones' new HBO show Game Theory.
Love to Sweat: Ally Love: 3/8/22
Sarah talks to Peloton instructor Ally Love about growing up in Miami and the "life-quake" that got her into dance and fitness as a kid, her career in the NBA from the Knicks City Dancers to the in-arena host for the Nets, modeling to support her dancing career, how she started working for Pelton, getting recognized in public, and the work she does with her company the Love Squad.
Officially Awesome: Sarah Thomas: 3/1/22
Sarah talks to Sarah Thomas about her path to becoming the first female official in NFL history, working in pharmaceutical sales for 15 years, why she almost walked away from officiating after her 10th year doing high school games, why she decided to tuck her hair early in her career, winning over colleagues, and what it was like to work the Super Bowl.
No Wimpy Woman: Kelaine Conochan: 2/22/22
Sarah talks to ultramarathoner Kelaine Conochan about her experience training for and running Badwater 135, the world's toughest footrace. Kelaine discusses going without AC in the summer in Washington DC to train for the heat, how she was groomed to believe that toughness is currency, and what Type 2 fun is. Plus, hear from the Do Crew as they take their first steps.
Sex & Math: Daniel Levitin: 2/15/22
Sarah talks to neuroscientist Daniel Levitin about the work he's done with the brain and music, trying to figure out where goosebumps come from, why we are drawn to the music of our youth, why he believes that music is an evolutionary adaptation, and the meaning and inspiration behind his new album Sex & Math.
Star in the Making: Amrit Kaur: 2/8/22
Sarah talks to the breakout star of Mindy Kaling's HBO show Sex Lives of College Girls, Amrit Kaur, about how she fell in love with drama in high school without being able to take drama classes because her parents didn't consider it a serious subject, how much she was sweating during her audition for Sex Lives, what it was like to film a naked party scene, what her parents thought of her sex positive character, a pants ripping story, and how participating in a beauty pageant helped her come to terms with her aesthetic.
As Fast As Her: Kendall Coyne: 2/1/22
Sarah talks to the captain of the US Women's Hockey team, Kendall Coyne, about the challenges she faced trying to play hockey as a kid including getting pennies thrown at her when she was 10 in a boys tournament, the successful almost boycott of the World Championships in 2017, participating in the fastest skate during the 2019 NHL All-Star festivities, and her new book As Fast As Her. Plus, more stories about people making big life changes and the unveiling of the Do Crew.
How To Be Perfect: Mike Schur: 1/25/22
Sarah welcomes back famed television writer and producer Mike Schur for a record third time. They catch up on their past conversations including the changes in Hollywood as a result of #MeToo and the racial reckoning in the summer of 2020. Then they discuss Mike's new book, "How To Be Perfect" and how his pursuit of living a moral life led to the creation of The Good Place and the realization that he can be really annoying about certain things.
How to Make and Sustain Changes: 1/18/22
It's an action packed episode of That's What She Said. Sarah talks to Herminia Ibarra, an organizational behavior professor, about the three phases of making a major life change. Then she chats with Dr. Katy Milkman, an economist, about the importance of committing to the small steps and having a plan to tackle a big life goal. And finally Sarah talks to three of her friends who made or are in the process of making big career leaps.
Rise: Lindsey Vonn: 1/11/22
Sarah talks to gold medal winning skier Lindsey Vonn about her new memoir in which she details her battles with depression and body image, the litany of injuries she overcame throughout her record setting career, the times her competitiveness may have gotten the best of her, and the difficulty of retirement.
The Happiness Project: Gretchen Rubin: 1/4/22
Listen to Sarah's conversation with author Gretchen Rubin for useful tips about habit forming that can lead to greater happiness. Plus, Sarah is trying to assemble a crew for 2022. Details on how you can be a part of it are within this episode.
Silver Lining Explorer: 12/28/21
Sarah talks to photographer Robyn Rachel about how landing a NASCAR driver's wedding got her photos in People Magazine and accelerated her career, how a rare genetic disease forced her to make tough decisions about her future, and how she and her husband adapted after the pandemic threw a giant wrench in their grand plans. Plus, Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner does the Spanish Inquisition.
A Festivas Miracle: 12/21/21
Friends of the pod air their sports grievances, often with a nod to their fan allegiances. Then Sarah recounts the year in sports in rhyme. It's a labor of love, but worth it every time.
Chef Edward Lee: 12/14/21
Sarah talks to Brooklyn born James Beard Award winning chef Edward Lee about how he ended up in Louisville and running a restaurant, working for a traveling circus, bartending at an S&M club in NYC, finding a rat in the pancake mix at a diner, his torturous time on Top Chef, and the work he's doing with The LEE Initiative.
Grief is Love: Ivan Maisel: 12/7/21
Sarah talks to On3.com's Ivan Maisel about his career covering college football, his new book about his son Max's apparent suicide, how he and his wife learned to grieve differently, and why he wants to keep talking about Max.
Takeline: Jason Concepcion: 11/30/21
Sarah talks to Emmy award winning content creator Jason Concepcion of Crooked Media about his early career in music, how his tweets led him to pivot to covering sports and culture, the story behind his Twitter handle @netw3rk, creating NBA Desktop, the success of Binge Mode, and making the decision to leave The Ringer.
GMFB: Kyle Brandt: 11/23/21
Sarah and Good Morning Football's Kyle Brandt discuss how he went from a football playing thespian at Princeton to a cast member on MTV's The Real World to a soap opera actor to producing Jim Rome's radio show to getting back in front of the camera for the NFL Network's popular morning show. Plus, his tryout as host for the Manning cast, hosting Frogger, his 10 Questions podcast, and how and when they first met.
Excellence is your Greatest Currency: 11/16/21
Sarah talks to a powerhouse panel of women in sports including Heidi Browning, the Chief Marketing Officer of the NHL, Kelly Kleine, the Executive Director of Football Operations for the Denver Broncos, Nicole Lynn, the President of Football Operations for Klutch Sports, and Mollie Marcoux Samaan, the Commissioner of the LPGA.
The WNBA is so important: Ari Chambers: 11/9/21
Sarah talks to Bleacher Report and NBA TV's Ari Chambers about how growing up in Raleigh fostered her love for basketball, how she became a model, how she noticed the lack of media coverage for the WNBA while she was a member of the Torch Patrol for the NY Liberty, not waiting for your yes, developing highlightHER, and advocating for women's sports.
Angel: Sarah McLachlan: 11/2/21
Sarah talks to Grammy winning singer/songwriter Sarah McLachlan about how music saved her, her Boy George phase, the influence of Peter Gabriel, getting a record deal, starting Lilith Fair, and the impact her music has had on others.
The Phenomenal Monica McNutt: 10/26/21
Sarah talks to ESPN rising star Monica McNutt about playing basketball at Georgetown, deciding to pursue a career in broadcast journalism, how meaningful her time in grad school at the University of Maryland was, the little known and never seen show that helped her get a big break, and their impressions of one another as panelists on Around the Horn.
The Rise of the NBA: Pete Croatto: 10/19/21
Sarah talks to author Pete Croatto about how he wanted to become a film critic, how he pivoted to writing about sports, and his book From Hang Time to Prime Time, which covers the NBA's surge in popularity during the 1970s and 80s, the fascinating life of Larry O'Brien, and the business savvy of David Stern,
Basketball Legend Becky Hammon: 10/14/21
Sarah talks to Spurs assistant coach Becky Hammon about why she doesn't do much media, being named as one of the top 25 players in WNBA history, the growth of the WNBA, working for Gregg Popovich, and interviewing for a few head coaching positions in the NBA. Plus, Sarah chats with ESPN's Laura Rutledge and live fire chef Jess Pryles.
The Many Lives of Sheryl Swoopes: 10/5/21
Sarah talks to basketball legend Sheryl Swoopes about navigating the news of her pregnancy prior to the inaugural WNBA season, having her own shoe called the Air Swoopes, talking smack with Deion Sanders at a fishing competition, and how she turned to farming during the pandemic. Plus, Sarah chats with CIAA Commissioner Jacquie McWilliams and Professional Fly Fishing Guide Morgan Prater.
Secrets of Happiness Revisited: 9/28/21
Sarah replays her chat with John Marcoux, a lawyer turned speaker on mindfulness, gratitude, and positivity. John discusses the mental health struggles of high performing corporate professionals and how we can all learn ways to increase our happiness by re-wiring our brains to think about the positives.
Mental Health in Sports: Dr. Wendy Borlabi: 9/21/21
Sarah talks to Dr, Wendy Borlabi, the Director of Performance and Mental Health for the Chicago Bulls, about discussing safe sex with first year NBA players at the Rookie Symposium, working with both Olympic athletes and Navy Seals, how she didn't know that sports psychology existed until she was 25, and how her role is similar to Dr. Sharon on the Apple+ show Ted Lasso.
Around the Rim: LaChina Robinson: 9/14/21
Sarah talks to ESPN's LaChina Robinson about growing up as one of 16 siblings, not liking basketball early on, working on the administration side of college sports before falling in love with announcing basketball, calling her first game for ESPN at Madison Square Garden, her women's basketball podcast Around the Rim, and covering the Olympics in Tokyo.
A Basketball Life: Terry Stotts: 9/7/21
Sarah talks to former Portland Trailblazers coach Terry Stotts about living in Guam as a kid, playing for and then coaching under George Karl, winning a title as an assistant with the Dallas Mavericks in 2011, and his tenure in Portland coaching Damian Lillard. Plus, a word of the week that shakes the foundation of this podcast to the core.
Justin Tinsley: 8/31/21
Sarah talks to ESPN's Justin Tinsley about how his failed attempt to recreate Michael Jordan's flu game, how he met his father by accident, his circuitous path to The Undefeated, and his new podcast The King of Crenshaw about how Nipsey Hussle's life, death, and legacy impacted the sports world.
Limitless: Mallory Weggemann: 8/24/21
Sarah talks to Paralympic swimmer and 15-time World Record setter Mallory Weggemann about the medical procedure that caused her paralysis as a teen, finding her passion for swimming again, competing at the Tokyo Paralympics and her book, "Limitless."
All In: Billie Jean King: 8/17/21
Sarah talks to tennis legend Billie Jean King about her lifelong fight for equal rights, the epiphany she had when she was 12, how she struggled with her sexuality, the famous Battle of the Sexes against Bobby Riggs, and why she wants to be friends with Snoop Dogg.
Stan Van Gundy: 8/10/21
Sarah talks to Stan Van Gundy about how he owes his NBA career to his brother Jeff, the truth behind his decision to step down from the Heat in 2005-06, the one time in his career where he acted without integrity and how it still irks him, why he says he and Dwight Howard had a great relationship, and how his life in basketball has helped shape his worldview.
Beginners: Tom Vanderbilt: 8/3/21
Sarah talks to Tom Vanderbilt about how his daughter's desire to learn how to play chess led him to do the same as well as to try surfing, juggling, and singing in a choir, all of which he chronicled in his book Beginners.
Ted Lasso co-creator: Brendan Hunt: 7/27/21
Sarah talks to Ted Lasso co-creator Brendan Hunt, who also stars in the series as Coach Beard, about the success of the show, why it's the most fulfilling job he's ever had, how the show went from a commercial bit to an international hit, and his career in comedy which included a five year stint in Amsterdam.
Olympian Lolo Jones: 7/20/21
Sarah talks to three-time Olympian Lolo Jones about what she learned from coming up short in the 2008 Olympics, how she dealt with a barrage of negativity on both social and traditional media, her virginity, the terrible experience she had on MTV's The Challenge, her new book Over It, and how she's transitioned to the bobsled and hopes to once again qualify for the Winter Games.
Invest in Women's Sports: Angela Ruggiero: 7/13/21
Sarah talks to Angela Ruggiero about winning a gold medal in hockey while she was still in high school, appearing on The Apprentice, her work as the CEO of the Sports Innovation Lab, the concept of the Fluid Fan, and why the results of their data driven Fan Project say that companies should invest in women's sports.
Politics to Podcasting: Dan Pfeiffer: 7/7/21
Sarah talks to former senior advisor to President Obama about the time he split his pants in the Oval Office, how he met his wife while they were both working in the White House, his New York Times best-selling books, and how he ended up hosting a popular podcast.
The Present Age: Parker Molloy: 6/29/21
Sarah talks to writer Parker Molloy about what it was like coming out at as transgender, how she started writing, why she doesn't consider herself a trans activist, why she's trying to zoom out and be more nuanced, how she's felt burned out, and why she decided to start her own newsletter.
Life Out Loud: LZ Granderson: 6/22/21
Sarah talks to ESPN/ABC's LZ Granderson about his unique voice, how he changed the spelling of his name to distance himself from his difficult childhood, how he struggled to accept his sexuality until after he was married to a woman and had a child, and his career in sports journalism.
Behavioral Science in Sports: Kevin Brilliant: 6/15/21
Sarah talks to Kevin Brilliant, the director of business strategy and analytics for the Chicago Bulls, about his role in using behavioral science to improve fan engagement, the importance of what he calls the regret lottery, what he learned from going to Disney about how to welcome fans back post-pandemic, and his Jamie Lee Curtis moment.
Jenn Sterger: 6/8/21
Sarah talks to Jenn Sterger about how sexual harassment cases in sports are covered in the media and her own personal experience while working for the New York Jets.
Every Body Yoga: Jessamyn Stanley: 6/1/21
Sarah talks to yoga teacher, body positivity activist, and author Jessamyn Stanley about how being fat doesn't mean that you aren't invited, how she reconciles her own tendency to body shame, how her soul was cracked open during yoga teacher training, how she once caught herself apologizing for existing, and about what pride means to her.
Screaming Infidelities: Chris Carrabba: 5/25/21
Sarah talks to Dashboard Confessional front man Chris Carrabba about why he has a positive outlook on Napster, his memories of doing MTV's Unplugged, shaping his look and stage presence, writing about his feelings, and his recovery from a motorcycle accident last summer.
'21 espnW Summit Special: 5/18/21
Sarah shares her espnW summit conversations with Paralympic medalist, Veteran, and Purple Heart recipient Melissa Stockwell as well as Adele Lim and Osnat Shurer, the writer and producer of Raya and the Last Dragon. Plus, an ode to Kenny Mayne.
Elena Delle Donne & Red Stars Preview: 5/11/21
Sarah talks to WNBA Superstar Elena Delle Donne about preparing for the Olympics and WNBA season, recovering from surgery, how international play takes some getting used to, and the way shes learning to deal with the hiccups and challenges as she gets older. Plus, Chicago Red Stars Head Coach Rory Dames stops by to preview the NWSL season and more.
Hunger 4 Words: Christina Hunger: 5/4/21
Sarah talks to Christina Hunger, a speech-language pathologist that is teaching her dog Stella to communicate using a series of buttons with words on them. Stella is now up to 50 words and can put together short sentences, express things like happiness and anger, and truly communicate what she wants and how she feels.
Catching Up: Domonique Foxworth: 4/27/21
Sarah and Domonique Foxworth talk about growing up, his decision to leave for college early, the moment he realized football was a business, not a dream, the advice he got from a teacher at Harvard that changed his life, him reluctantly joining the media and much more.
Therapy Session: Cari Champion: 4/20/21
Sarah talks to Cari Champion about her decision to leave ESPN, how quickly her show with friend Jemele Hill on Vice TV started production, how she bought a house mid-pandemic, her activism and the challenge of working for multiple outlets at once.
Another Act: Kelley Carter: 4/13/21
Sarah talks to Kelley Carter of The Undefeated about talking to big names like Oprah and Don Cheadle in her interview series Another Act amidst the pandemic, how she prepares for the Oscars by watching everything, the show going without a host for another year, and how her role at The Undefeated has changed in the past four years.
Crushed: Joan Niesen: 4/6/21
Sarah talks to journalist Joan Niesen about how her love of baseball was passed down from her paternal grandmother, her path from an economics degree to feature writer for Sports Illustrated, and her new podcast where she reckons with the steroid era in baseball and the home run chase of 1998 after seeing it through innocent eyes as a ten-year-old.
Athlete Allies: Chris Mosier and Anne Lieberman: 3/30/21
Sarah talks to Team USA triathlete Chris Mosier and 3-time national champion Muay Thai Fighter Anne Lieberman about how important sports can be for transgender and non binary teens and the recent uptick in anti-trans legislation in a multitude of states.
Aim True: Kathryn Budig: 3/23/21
Sarah talks to yoga teacher, author, and podcaster Kathryn Budig about how she had to get dragged back to her second yoga class, applying a business mindset to a spiritual practice, the response she got after posing naked in an advertisement, finding balance, and dealing with grief.
Top Chef: Kristen Kish: 3/16/21
Sarah talks to chef Kristen Kish about what she learned from her experience winning season 10 of Top Chef, finding her food identity through her menu at her Austin based restaurant Arlo Grey, dealing with sexism in the food industry, coming out as a lesbian, and the joy she experienced filming her new show Fast Foodies on truTV.
NWSL Commissioner Lisa Baird: 3/8/21
A couple of commishes cuttin' it up. Sarah talks to National Women's Soccer League commissioner Lisa Baird about how she had to react to the pandemic on her second day on the job, the success of the Challenge Cup, the league's relationship with US Soccer and how it's changed recently, and how she's trying to grow the league both in terms of audience and franchise expansion.
Making Memories: Lesley Visser: 3/2/21
Sarah talks to legendary sports reporter and true female trailblazer Lesley Visser about her storied career covering the biggest events in sports (Super Bowls, Final Fours, NBA Finals, World Series) and in the world (the fall of the Berlin Wall). Lesley discusses wearing a credential that said no women or children allowed, getting thrown out of the locker room at the Cotton Bowl, the tutelage she got at The Boston Globe, her trick to interviewing Bill Belichick, and why sometimes you have to cross when it says don't walk.
Very Smart Brotha: Damon Young: 2/23/21
Sarah talks to writer Damon Young about growing up in Pittsburgh, how he became interested in writing while playing basketball in college, the pitfalls of the socialized ideals of manhood, his past criticism of LaVar Ball, the intentionality of suppression, and how anxiety is not just something that plagues white men.
Ariel Helwani: The Howard Cosell of MMA: 2/16/21
Sarah talks to ESPN's Ariel Helwani about his rise in the MMA world, getting banned from covering the UFC by Dana White in 2016 and the support he got from mainstream media figures like Dan Patrick and Dan Le Batard that helped reverse the ban, his struggles with social anxiety, the six month stretch he refers to as the crossroads of his life, the role the film Garden State played in his personal life, and the Helwani Nose Awards.
Mt. Joy's Matt Quinn: 2/9/21
Sarah talks to Mt. Joy front man Matt Quinn about the nerves they felt playing on Conan, how they found their bassist on Craigslist, how Sarah discovered them by hearing one of their songs on Full Frontal, how he dates his life by sporting events, and his passion for Philadelphia teams. Plus, select clips from three of Mt. Joy's songs.
The Bachelor: Matt James: 2/2/21
Sarah talks to The Bachelor Matt James about watching himself on TV, the flack he's gotten for kissing women with his eyes open, the drama with the girls in the house, how he focused on being present and intentional throughout the season, why no one ever seems to eat on camera, and the advice he got from his friend and former Bachelorette contestant Tyler Cameron.
South Side: Len Kasper: 1/26/21
Sarah talks to Len Kasper about why he decided to leave the Cubs TV job for the White Sox radio job, how his degree in public relations got him a foot in the door in sports, the relationships he's formed with players over the years including the one who once parked his motorcycle in Len's garage, and his love of music and his band Sonic 45.
Not a Dick: Bill Plaschke: 1/19/21
Sarah talks to award-winning writer and Around the Horn panelist Bill Plaschke about how writing was the only way he could express himself as a kid because he stuttered when he spoke, how a box of Cocoa Puffs led to a big break in his career, his rise to columnist at The Los Angeles Times, why he prefers to write human interests stories, and his battle with COVID-19.
I'm Going to Say Dumb Sh*t: Boog Sciambi: 1/12/21
The new look TWSS is here and along with an array of new features Sarah talks to Jon "Boog" Sciambi about taking over as the play-by-play announcer for the Cubs, why he's never been on a cruise, how he got his nickname, and the side job he worked for only one day.
Ramona Shelburne on 30 for 30 Podcast: 1/5/21
Sarah talks to Ramona Shelburne about the new 30 for 30 podcast, March 11 2020, as well as their recollections of the day when everything changed, including what it was like to be on Around the Horn that day.
You Get The Show - One Last LAF: 12/29/20
Sarah - aka The Commish - welcomes recurring guests from the "Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" and the "Le Batard And Friends" podcast network to share their favorite stories and memories of Dan, Stu and the Shipping Container as the guys get ready to leave ESPN.
Annual Airing of Grievances: 2020 Edition: 12/22/20
Sarah listens and reacts to an array of sports media personalities who air their grievances. Plus, Sarah highlights some heartwarming stories from 2020 and then sums up the year in sports that was- with a poem- just because.
MARCH 11 2020: 12/21/20
Americans woke up on March 11 2020 in one reality and, by the time they went to sleep that night, they were living with a new one. Hear the story of the day everything changed the day the NBA shut down and the pandemic became real as told by those who lived it.
Virgie Tovar: 12/15/20
Sarah talks to activist and author Virgie Tovar about body image, fat positivity, her TEDx Talk titled Lose Hate Not Weight, the dangers of diet culture, and the myriad ways in which overweight people are discriminated against.
Grant Wahl and Celine Gounder: 12/8/20
Sarah talks to Grant Wahl and Celine Gounder about how they met at Princeton, how Celine's work as an infectious disease physician and epidemiologist took them all over the world, Grant's exit from Sports Illustrated, Celine's memorable interview on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, and Celine's role on the Biden-Harris transition team.
Dule Hill: 12/1/20
Sarah talks to actor Dule Hill about a terrifying moment during his national TV debut, being forced to choose between a college course and a show business opportunity, what he learned working on The West Wing, the almost instant chemistry he had with James Roday Rodriguez on Psych, and what it was like being on Suits at the end of the Meghan Markle era.
Jen Lada: 11/24/20
Sarah talks to ESPN's Jen Lada about the no commercials rule at her house growing up, her inauspicious start at ESPN, why she enjoys feature reporting and the difficulty of doing it in 2020, her openness about her late term miscarriage, and her new stint in morning radio.
Game Changer- Kim Ng: 11/20/20
Sarah's conversation from March with Kim Ng, who was recently named as the general manager of the Miami Marlins, making her Major League Baseball's first female GM. She is also believed to be the first woman hired as a GM by any major professional men's team in North American sports.
Malika Andrews: 11/17/20
Sarah talks to ESPN NBA Reporter Malika Andrews about dealing with depression and anxiety as a teenager, target skills, how she fell in love with journalism in college, her internship at the New York Times, and the nerves during her first SportsCenter hit. Plus, a bubble speed round and a wild story about her first week living in Chicago.
DeMar DeRozan, Gracie Gold, and Molly Seidel: 11/10/20
Sarah talks about mental health in sports with NBA All-Star DeMar DeRozan, US Olympic medal winning figure skater Gracie Gold, and professional long distance runner Molly Seidel. They discuss when they came to grips with their struggles, what their low points were, why sweeping things under the rug is not a solution, and why communicating their feelings and having a strong support network is so vital.
Stone Gossard: 11/3/20
Sarah talks to Pearl Jam guitarist Stone Gossard about the band's longevity, how he's still trying to impress Eddie Vedder with songs to this day, how they viewed Soundgarden as their big brother, and how his new socially distanced super band Painted Shield came together.
Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle: 10/27/20
Sarah talks to soccer legend Abby Wambach and best-selling author Glennon Doyle about understanding the ways in which the patriarchy, social norms taught at a young age, and systematic racism are keeping others down.
Jordan and Shae Cornette: 10/20/20
Sarah talks to Jordan and Shae Cornette about how they each got started in sports media, meeting one another along the way, the time Shae once described a chair for four minutes, relocating to Connecticut, and what it's like to host a radio show together.
Renee Montgomery: 10/13/20
Sarah talks to WNBA champion Renee Montgomery about her decision to opt out of the WNBA Bubble and the work she's done to advance social justice causes, how she and her Atlanta Dream teammates have handled their fundamental disagreements with their owner, and how she met her fiance at a Hawks game.
R.P. Eddy: 10/6/20
Sarah talks to businessman and author R.P. Eddy about the work he's done in public service- he created the first White House pandemic response, was a UN diplomat, and was the architect of the Global Fund to fight AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria. Eddy also discusses how the pandemic was predictable (he wrote as much in 2017), how to discern the glut of information out there to find the most accurate stuff, and how to become aware of the ways that our minds trick us.
Julie Foudy, Tony Reali and Israel Gutierrez : 10/2/20
In her first virtual, live podcast, Sarah talks to Julie Foudy about selling her life rights for a Netflix feature film on her '99ers World Cup-winning team. Plus, behind-the-scenes on helping found the new star-studded NWSL franchise, Angel City FC. Then, Tony Reali and Israel Gutierrez join to share secrets of "Around The Horn."
SNL's Ego Nwodim: 9/29/20
Sarah talks to SNL's Ego Nwodim about how her family pushed her towards a career in medicine, how she climbed the comedy ranks, the various jobs she had before getting her big break, some her favorite hosts and musical acts, and a pleasant surprise about her personal life.
TWSS Announcement: 9/24/20
Listen up for details on how to register for the live That's What She Said with Sarah Spain virtual show next week.
Sarah chats with Mina Kimes, Mike, Golic, Jr., Elle Duncan, Adam Amin, and Dianna Russini about how they prepare for their various jobs. They share their daily routines, best practices, websites they consult, and sources they rely on.
Adam Rutherford: 9/15/20
Sarah talks to geneticist Adam Rutherford about why he's skeptical of the wave in online ancestry kits, how race is a social construct, how science is not great at providing narrative satisfaction, and other insights from his book, "How to Argue With a Racist"
Mike Schur: 9/8/20
Sarah talks to writer/show runner Mike Schur about how the Parks and Recreation reunion came about, the one, simple rule he has for working with others, how he almost ruined The Office by arguing against a plot point, how the industry has been affected by the pandemic and will be affected by the recent social unrest, and the passing of his father-in-law, Regis Philbin.
James Roday Rodriguez: 9/1/20
Sarah talks to actor/director James Roday Rodriguez about doing naked shows at NYU, how he chose his stage name, the cult success of Pysch, how and why he decided to go behind the camera and focus on directing, and then how the script of A Million Little Things made him get back to acting.
Jessica Luther and Kavitha Davidson: 8/25/20
Sarah talks to Jessica Luther and Kavitha Davidson about their new book Loving Sports When They Don't Love You Back, which explores dilemmas for fans like racist mascots, loving your team while hating its owner, gender violence, doping, and more.
Your Life is a Record: Brandy Clark: 8/18/20
Sarah talks to Grammy nominated singer-songwriter Brandy Clark about what it's like to collaborate with an artist on an album, the story behind "Follow Your Arrow" by Kasey Musgraves, how Jaws inspired one of her songs, how she grew up in a town of 900 people, and why she compares her career to ice-skating.
Tatyana McFadden: 8/11/20
Sarah talks to Paralympic superstar Tatyana McFadden about how she's the only athlete to win the Boston, London, Chicago, and New York marathons in the same year (and she did it three times), the activism work she's been doing, being born into a Russian orphanage, and how she walked on her hands for the first six years of her life.
The Smartest Man in the World: Greg Proops: 8/4/20
Sarah talks to comedian and actor Greg Proops about the incredible success of Whose Line Is It Anyway?, being in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, doing comedy via Zoom, and why he demands that comedy clubs fill out the bill on his shows with female comics.
Legend: Mike Golic: 7/28/20
Sarah talks to Mike Golic about the end of his two decades plus run as the co-host of ESPN Radio's morning show including his favorite guests, recurring bits, trips, experiences, why the end of Golic and Wingo feels so much different than the end of Mike & Mike, and what his future holds.
Ibtihaj Muhammad: 7/21/20
Sarah talks to Olympic fencer Ibtihaj Muhammad about becoming the first female Muslim to win a medal and to wear a hijab while competing for the United States, how a Barbie was designed after her, and a harrowing story of being arresting amidst the protests in LA.
Christen Press and Tobin Heath: 7/16/20
Sarah talks to USWNT members Christen Press and Tobin Heath about the work they're doing with Stacy's Rise project to empower female entrepreneurs, how they bring humility to the business world with their company reinc, and how they are trying to re-imagine the status quo in everything that they do.
Brandon Copeland: 7/14/20
Sarah talks to Patriots linebacker Brandon Copeland about attending Penn, interning for UBS, his PED suspension, signing with the Patriots, and the biggest tips he teaches in his financial literacy course.
Untamed: Glennon Doyle: 7/7/20
Sarah talks to New York Times bestselling author Glennon Doyle about her extremely awkward love at first sight moment with her wife Abby Wambach, how her new book Untamed is about trying to unlearn social conditioning, how she views her past work, and her non-profit Together Rising.
Unbothered: Jemele Hill: 6/30/20
Sarah talks to Jemele Hill about her tenure at ESPN and the way that it ended, how she feels as a person of color doing a podcast on The Ringer in the wake of Bill Simmons' recent comments, how she always finds a way to work with her closest friends, which includes her new show on Vice with Cari Champion, and what it was like to be on an episode of Bravo's Below Deck.
When We Play Round Table: 6/23/20
Sarah leads a round table discussion with Pro Basketball Hall of Famer Tamika Catchings, former Notre Dame Women's head basketball coach Muffet McGraw and the University of Tennessee's Athletic Director Phillip Fulmer on women in leadership roles. The discussion is a part of espnW's When We Play initiative celebrating the 48th anniversary of the passing of Title IX.
SNL's Heidi Gardner: 6/16/20
Sarah talks to SNL's Heidi Gardner about her rapid rise in comedy, the hilarious outfit she wore to the mall to meet boys in middle school, how seeing Melissa McCarthy in The Groundlings inspired her to take an improve class, and what it was like to do SNL from home.
Adam Pally: 6/9/20
Sarah talks to actor Adam Pally about how his comedy career got started by doing the morning announcements at his school, why he didn't enjoy Inside the Actors Studio with James Lipton, the possibility of a Happy Endings Zoom reunion, what he liked most about working with Mindy Kaling, and punching baby Yoda.
Dr. Eddie S. Glaude Jr.: 6/3/20
Sarah talks to Princeton professor Dr. Eddie S. Glaude Jr. about the country's response to the killing of George Floyd, the significant difference between passive and active support, and the lessons that can be learned from the #MeToo movement in the fight for racial equality. Plus, Sarah reads a prescient passage from Glennon Doyle's latest book Untamed.
Liberty: Layshia Clarendon: 5/26/20
Sarah talks to WNBA All-Star Layshia Clarendon about her oddly specific aspirations as a kid, the difficulty in coming out to her parents, why she's become such a vocal activist for LGBTQ rights, and her excitement about playing with #1 overall pick Sabrina Ionescu.
Mini Pod: Jasmine Jordan: 5/21/20
Sarah talks to Jasmine Jordan about what it was like to grow up with a famous father, what she thought about The Last Dance, and how MJ and her fiancÚ both needed some liquid courage before meeting one another.
Life is Good: John and Bert Jacobs: 5/19/20
Sarah talks to John and Bert Jacobs about how they came up with their t-shirt brand Life is Good, how they reconnected on a cross country trip, how they've embraced the science on positive psychology, the differences between rational optimism and blind positivity, and the many super powers, as they call them, that fit their brand's ethos.
The Hot Hand: Ben Cohen: 5/12/20
Sarah talks to Ben Cohen of The Wall Street Journal about his book The Hot Hand, including the interesting reason why the creator of NBA Jam came up with "he's on fire," how we invent causes to explain patterns, the differences between the hot hand and flow state, how the best work of creators comes in bunches, and how The Princess Bride finally got made because of a creative hot hand.
How To Do Nothing: Jenny Odell: 5/5/20
Sarah talks to artist, author, and educator Jenny Odell about cutting class in high school to look at ducks, why conceptual art isn't a stunt, recognizing art as an architect of attention, her book How to Do Nothing, and her fascination with internet ads.
Mini Pod: Carmen Electra: 4/30/20
Sarah talks to Carmen Electra about her relationship with Dennis Rodman during the Bulls championship run in the '90s.
Tyler Cameron: 4/28/20
Sarah talks to football player turned model turned reality show contestant Tyler Cameron about his experience on The Bachelorette, his past and current relationship with Hannah Brown, his quarantine crew, meeting Jennifer Aniston at an awards show, dating Gigi Hadid, and his new role co-hosting Barkitecture on Quibi.
Swin Cash: 4/21/20
Sarah talks to Swin Cash about the dominant team she played for in college at UCONN, how the WNBA's marketing campaigns have changed over time, the exhausting fight to promote the women's game, her work as a broadcaster, and her new role in the front office for the New Orleans Pelicans.
Sir Charles: Charles Barkley: 4/14/20
Sarah talks to Charles Barkley about how he cried during his high school's graduation, what he learned from being cut from the 1984 Olympic team, how Moses Malone taught him to stop being fat and lazy, his fractured relationship with Michael Jordan, and his memories of playing against the Bulls of the 1990s.
The Art of Non-Conformity: Chris Guillebeau: 4/7/20
Sarah talks with Chris Guillebeau about how he earned a Master's degree without completing high school, how he traveled to every country in the world by the age of 35, his New York Times best-selling books, as well as his new book The Money Tree.
Block or Charge?: Rex Chapman: 3/31/20
Sarah talks with former NBA player Rex Chapman about his Johnny Manziel-esque college career, his addiction to painkillers and the long road to recovery, and his new found fame as a social media star.
A League of Their Own: Rhea Butcher: 3/25/20
Sarah talks with comedian Rhea Butcher about growing up loving baseball, finding their way into comedy, a brief stint as a skater, and deciding to use non-binary pronouns.
Community: Imran Khan and Jahmal Cole: 3/10/20
In this super-sized pod, Sarah speaks with two leaders in the Chicago community who are trying to change the face of education and the ways we deal with poverty and crime affecting our young people.
Power Plays: Lindsay Gibbs: 3/3/20
Sarah talks with Lindsay Gibbs about the historical fiction novel she wrote about survivors of the Titanic, her time working on America's Next Top Model, finding her ideal role at Think Progress, her new newsletter, and the lane she's carved covering women's sports and its coverage.
Born to be Wilder: Charlotte Wilder: 2/25/20
Sarah talks with Charlotte Wilder about her Donna Martin Graduates moment, how teaching sailing lessons prepared her to work in a predominantly male industry, her path to Sports Illustrated, and the time she was almost run over by a pontoon boat.
Start by Believing: John Barr/Dan Murphy: 2/18/20
Sarah talks with ESPN Investigative Reporters John Barr and Dan Murphy about their new book, Start By Believing, which chronicles the many red flags in the Larry Nassar sexual abuse scandal that were either missed or not reported.
Without Regard- and hi: Amy Trask: 2/11/20
Sarah talks with former NFL executive Amy Trask about her path from unpaid intern to CEO of the Raiders, how she reacted when an NFL owner asked her to get him a coffee, and the time she mistakenly thanked a media executive for their service.
Paparazzo: James Ambler: 2/4/20
Sarah talks with former paparazzi photog James Ambler about the time he got a ride from Angelina Jolie, how he almost fell into Anna Nicole Smith's grave, why he nearly came to blows with Jude Law, and how he ended up on Shark Tank and The Today Show.
Golly: Chris Long: 1/28/20
Sarah talks to 2-time Super Bowl champion Chris Long about the genius of Belichick, what he hopes for Tom Brady next season, why his Eagles Super Bowl team will always hold a special place in his heart, and the work he's doing in the name of social justice.
Miracle: Victoria Arlen: 1/21/20
Sarah talks to Victoria Arlen about what it was like to be in vegetative state for four years, her remarkable recovery, winning a gold medal in the Paralympics, competing on Dancing With the Stars despite not having any feeling in her legs, working for ESPN, and being the face of Jockey.
Development: Scott Pioli: 1/14/20
Sarah talks to NFL executive Scott Pioli about his relationship with Bill Belichick, marrying Bill Parcells' daughter, scouting and selecting Tom Brady, where he went wrong in Kansas City, and why advocating for diversity and inclusion is so personal for him.
Manifestation: Lizzi Cutler: 1/7/20
Sarah talks to healing arts trainer Lizzi Cutler about her Karate Kid moment learning how to teach yoga in Japan, her experiences with psychic energy, teaching clients how to turn left and find their pivot points, and the importance of accountability in goal setting.
An Incredible Reunion + Remembering David Stern: 1/2/20
As you watch the Chiefs play, look for running backs coach Deland McCullough. He has an incredible story, one that he shared with ESPN's Sarah Spain. After decades of not knowing his birth parents, McCullough's search for the truth led him to an incredible revelation - and reunion - with football at the center. Also, Jeremy Schaap offers a remembrance of legendary NBA Commissioner David Stern.
The Happiness Lab: 12/31/19
Sarah speaks with Yale Professor Dr. Laurie Santos about how we are terrible at predicting what will make us happy, the global success of her course on happiness, finding bronze linings and other tips that can help make us happier.
A Festivus Miracle: 12/24/19
Sarah and a handful of sports media personalities air their grievances for 2019. Then the year that was- the highs and the lows- in a poem, just because (25:39)
Triumph: Robert Smigel: 12/17/19
Sarah chats with comedian Robert Smigel about his favorite SNL sketches, the lasting legacy of the Superfans, and how one of his decisions sunk The Dana Carvey Show.
The Man: Becky Lynch: 12/10/19
Sarah chats with WWE super star Becky Lynch about how she failed P.E. class, how she got into wrestling and eventually took a 6-year break, why she once cried in a grocery store, and what led to her adopting the moniker, "The Man."
Frozen: Kristen Anderson-Lopez: 12/3/19
Sarah chats with the Oscar and Grammy award-winning lyricist Kristen Anderson-Lopez about the pressure of writing the songs for Frozen II, how she wrote a song while ice-skating, and what she likes to call e-pee-phanies.
Mini Pod: SNL's Beck Bennett: 11/27/19
Sarah chats with SNL's Beck Bennett about what it's like when former cast members like Will Ferrell come back to the show, who he would most want to host, and the time he met someone he's impersonated.
Focus: Cal Newport: 11/26/19
Sarah talks to author and Georgetown professor Cal Newport about how social media companies have hacked our brains to get us to continually use their products, how the American workforce struggles with unbroken concentration, the constant companion model, and ways to digitally declutter.
Empathy: Jamil Zaki: 11/19/19
Sarah talks to Stanford psychology professor Jamil Zaki about how empathy is in short supply these days, his Roddenberry Hypothesis, and what Manchester United fans taught us about tribalism.
A High Threshold for Boredom: Steve Rushin: 11/12/19
Sarah talks to writer Steve Rushin about the curious way he met his wife, landing his dream job at age 25, getting a pair of pants thrown at him by a baseball manager, and the evolving landscape of journalism.
Natitude: Lindsay Czarniak and Reese Waters: 11/5/19
Sarah talks with Lindsay Czarniak about covering the Nationals' World Series run, working with George Michael, and her time at ESPN. Plus, she catches up with Reese Waters, who discusses the vibe in DC after the Nats win and tells great stories about interviewing comedians like Jon Stewart and Tiffany Haddish.
Image and Likeness: 10/29/19
Sarah discusses California's Fair Pay to Play Act with ESPN's Jay Bilas, sports economist Andy Schwarz, and state senator Nancy Skinner.
Place: Wright Thompson: 10/22/19
Sarah talks to ESPN's Wright Thompson about finding his footing as a writer, the importance of the writer-editor relationship, why he always tries to "send the elevator back down," why place seems to be a recurring theme in his writing, and why empathy is the most important quality for a writer to have.
Happier: Gretchen Rubin: 10/15/19
Sarah talks with NY Times Best-Selling author Gretchen Rubin about why she decided to research happiness, why rewards are not good for habit changing, the difficulty in manufacturing a lightning bolt habit change, and how your personality affects your ability to change your behavior.
Man in Blazer: Roger Bennett: 10/8/19
Sarah talks with Roger Bennett of Men in Blazers about how being an Everton fan has shaped his outlook on life, how his American pen pal made him fall in love with the Chicago White Sox, how not being able to watch the World Cup Final led to meeting his professional partner, and why becoming a US citizen was one of the best days of his life.
Drive: Jeff Passan: 10/1/19
Sarah talks with ESPN's Jeff Passan about focusing on his career on the first day of college, being rejected by a girl because of something he had written, how he has embraced the role of "transaction monkey," and the debut of his Elmo impression on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.
Trick Mirror: Jia Tolentino: 9/24/19
Sarah talks with Jia Tolentino, a culture critic at The New Yorker, about growing up in a megachurch, doing a reality show when she was 16, writing about issues without offering solutions, and her concerns about the impact of the internet and social media.
Professor of Happiness: Laurie Santos: 9/17/19
Sarah talks with Yale professor Dr. Laurie Santos about her work with dogs and monkeys, her wildly popular course on happiness, the G.I. Joe Fallacy and other ways our minds trick us.
True Life: Ryan Harris: 9/10/19
Sarah talks with Super Bowl champion offensive lineman Ryan Harris about being on an MTV reality show in high school, converting to Islam, and his career in the NFL.
Life On The Line: Ryan O'Callaghan: 9/3/19
Sarah talks with former NFL offensive lineman Ryan O'Callaghan about the stress of being a closeted gay man in the NFL, his struggles with opioids, planning to take his own life, and the sudden end to his friendship with Aaron Rodgers.
Authenticity in the Booth: Mina Kimes: 8/27/19
Sarah talks with Mina Kimes about calling Rams preseason games, why she almost turned down the opportunity, how her preparation included reading an entire book unnecessarily, her spreadsheets for each NFL team, and how she's finding her voice as a broadcaster.
Football Women: Jane Skinner Goodell: 8/22/19
Sarah talks with Jane Skinner Goodell about growing up in Chicago, her career as a news reporter, why her father cried when Roger asked for her hand in marriage, and her new documentary A Lifetime of Sundays about the four iconic female owners of NFL teams.
Working Mom: Ramona Shelburne: 8/20/19
Sarah talks with Ramona Shelburne about how motherhood has impacted her career as a reporter, what it was like covering the Lakers' turbulent off-season, and her new project about the Donald Sterling saga with the Los Angeles Clippers.
Lasting Impression: Frank Caliendo: 8/13/19
Sarah talks with comedian Frank Caliendo about how his first stage was on the baseball diamond, how he hurt his back tying his shoes, what he learned in an acting class, how he's trying to change his routine, and an embarrassing moment with a celebrity.
Leadership: Muffet McGraw: 8/6/19
Sarah talks to Notre Dame women's basketball coach Muffet McGraw about how she got her nickname, the best and worst parts about being at the same place for 30+ years, her press conference answer that went viral, and her rivalry with Geno Auriemma and UCONN.
Trailblazer: Beth Mowins: 7/30/19
Sarah talks to ESPN play-by-play announcer Beth Mowins about knowing what she wanted to do from an early age, how playing point guard has helped her in her career, finding her voice, the choreographed dance that every broadcast is, and how she deals with critics.
The Brow: Anthony Davis: 7/29/19
Sarah talks to Lakers forward Anthony Davis about growing up in Chicago, the most scared he's ever been, whether or not he's been in a fist fight, and something his future spouse better be ok with.
Fight On: Jake Olson: 7/23/19
Sarah talks to former USC long snapper Jake Olson about his cancer diagnosis which led to him going blind, deciding to continuing playing sports, the nerves involved with his snap at USC, and the time he tricked a friend with a fake eye ball.
Bountiful: Holly Rowe: 7/16/19
Sarah talks to Holly Rowe about having weekly progress reports with her parents as a child, taking a basketball class taught by Rick Majerus, how ESPN has changed in the past 20 years, keeping a joy journal, and how cancer made her live a bigger life.
Meant to Be: Taylor Twellman: 7/9/19
Sarah talks to Taylor Twellman about growing up in a family littered with professional athletes, choosing to play soccer over a MLB contract, how living in Europe during 9/11 changed his life, missing out on the World Cup, how concussions derailed his career, and who he would want to play him in a movie.
Easy Going: Tim Cowlishaw: 7/2/19
Sarah talks to Tim Cowlishaw about how he took a year off from college because of a girl, his circuitous route in journalism that led him back to Dallas, forming a relationship with Jimmy Johnson, and how an athlete inspired him to share his own battles with alcohol.
Dream Job: Jason Benetti: 6/25/19
Sarah talks to play-by-play announcer Jason Benetti about his cerebral palsy, getting the job he's wanted since elementary school, why he decided to go to law school after he was already a broadcaster, his fascination with comedy and how he incorporates it into his work, and how he manages to fit 220+ game broadcasts into a calendar year.
Therapy Couch: Chelsea Handler: 6/18/19
Sarah talks to Chelsea Handler about her new outlook on therapy, the symbolic power of oranges, getting back into stand-up comedy, and the time she dealt with a different kind of turbulence on an airplane.
Chalk It Up: Woody Paige: 6/11/19
Sarah talks to Woody Paige about how his marriage to a future Rolling Stone editor led him into sports, why he ended up in Denver, dealing with depression, and why he intentionally referred to an Around the Horn colleague by the wrong name.
The Mouth of the South: Paul Finebaum: 6/4/19
Sarah talks with Paul Finebaum about his beef with Drake, how a caller led to the biggest break of his career, the presidential candidate who didn't know who Nick Saban is, and his thoughts on The Paul Fine-bucket that's used on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.
A Journalism OG: Bob Ryan: 5/28/19
Sarah talks with Bob Ryan about starting at The Boston Globe the same day as Peter Gammons, how he used to be called "The Commissioner," his frosty relationship with a former Celtics head coach, the radio interview he most regrets doing, and how he'd like to change the constitution.
Be True to Who You Are: Dianna Russini: 5/21/19
Sarah talks with ESPN's Dianna Russini about punching an opponent in the face as a college athlete, getting a prestigious internship by answering a riddle, replying to an email 10 years later, covering the tragedy at Sandy Hook, and why she needs to unfollow Tom Brady on social media.
Forever Ready: The '99ers : 5/14/19
Sarah talks with Julie Foudy, Brandi Chastain, Kristine Lilly, and Briana Scurry about the 20th anniversary of their World Cup run, whether or not their legacy is what they thought it would be, and the strengths and weaknesses of the 2019 team.
From Shadow Artist to Billions: Brian Koppelman: 5/7/19
Sarah talks with Brian Koppelman about leaving his early success in the recording industry to pursue a career in writing, how his film Rounders became a cult hit, why he and his writing partner chose to write Billions, and how he decided to try standup comedy shortly after his 40th birthday.
Ball is Life: 4/29/19
Sarah talks with WNBA superstar and ESPN NBA Analyst Chiney Ogwumike about how she spent her first ever basketball practice in the bathroom, being mentored by Condoleezza Rice, making a viral video while she was in college, being drafted #1 overall, how she was recently traded to her older sister's team, and the time she had a bad hair day on national television.
Zest: Ron Magill: 4/23/19
Sarah chats with Ron Magill about working on Miami Vice, meeting Barbara Streisand, what makes Dwyane Wade scream and run like a child, the benevolence of Shaquille O'Neal, how getting bitten by a crocodile led to him meeting his wife, the email Dan Le Batard wrote to executives after Ron appeared on SportsCenter, and the time he was almost killed by an elephant.
Likeability: David Jacoby: 4/16/19
Sarah talks with David Jacoby about how most people think his last name is his first name, how he used to hustle tourists in NYC, how he once wrote 500 trivia questions in a day for ESPN, why he wouldn't move to Bristol, developing SportsNation, the rise and fall of Grantland, and the gradual ascension of Jalen & Jacoby.
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