Chat with David Schoenfield
Welcome to Sportsnation! On Tuesday, ESPN.com's SweetSpot blogger David Schoenfield stops by to chat some baseball.
Schoenfield is a senior writer for ESPN.com and he's been with ESPN.com since 1995 and has served in a variety of roles, including baseball editor, Page 2 senior editor and writer, and even interim soccer editor. He grew up in Seattle rooting for the Mariners, believes Edgar Martinez should be in the Hall of Fame and had no issues with Felix Hernandez winning the Cy Young Award despite a 13-12 record.
Send your questions now and join Schoenfield Tuesday at 1 p.m. ET!
David Schoenfield (12:59 PM)
Good afternoon/morning, everyone! Snowing here in Bristol today, which only makes me pine for the start of spring training. Let's talk baseball.
Who looks like the AL East favorite right now?
David Schoenfield (1:00 PM)
I'd still put the Yankees No. 1, especially since it looks like Pettitte and Rivera will return. So they have rotation that includes Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Nova and Pineda, in some shape. I'll take that group and they'll manage to score enough runs.
If your Boston, would you deal Lester for Myers? Myers could pepper the green monster all year and be a terrific hitter there.
David Schoenfield (1:03 PM)
Do the Royals do that move straight up? Lester only has two years remaining before free agency. That said, it's an interesting challenge trade. Lester's arm and stuff still seem fine, but his K rate has dropped each of the past three years. On the other hand, Myers struck out 140 times in the minors, so has obvious passivity/contact issues, despite his great numbers. But if I'm Boston, I do the deal. Not sure Lester will ever be the pitcher he was a few years ago.
Hey David, hope your place made it through the storm okay.Figgins is gone, long live Chone!
David Schoenfield (1:03 PM)
It was a great day! Releasing Figgins that is, not the storm. (Survived just fine.)
Dave I love your work. I have thought a great signing for the cost conscious Braves would be Jeff Keppinger to platoon with Juan Fransisco at 3B. He kills lefties, Juan kills righties, and could get Kep for 2-3 years at 3-4 mil a year. Leave Prado in left, and only have to sign/trade for a CF. What would you think about this? Doesnt appear Braves have even kicked the tires on this option...
David Schoenfield (1:04 PM)
Good idea. Keppinger did just break his fibula in a fall at home, although will reportedly be fine for spring training. He doesn't have much range anymore, but is a perfect NL-type utility player -- 3B, 1B, some DH in interleague games.
Sweet D (San Francisco)
I honestly believe between, Upton, Bourn, Pagan. Upton is the easy choice and the only one you would go 5 years on a contract for. Question is why are the Giants not pursuing him?
David Schoenfield (1:06 PM)
I think Upton is a step down defensively from those guys, at least according to the defensive metrics. He makes some great players but still has a lot of misreads. And with all that ground in center in San Fran, I think the Giants want an elite defensive center fielder.
Liked you piece on Hamilton. My question is why people think the Brewers might make sense? Last time I checked they had a left fielder that was younger, less injury prone, and better.
David Schoenfield (1:07 PM)
Yeah, I know Buster Olney keeps mentioning the Brewers, so he's hearing that from somebody. Plus, the Brewers led the NL in runs scored, so offense wasn't the problem last year. That said, if you get Hamilton at the right price, of course they'd be interested.
While I am sad to see Torii go, wasn't it the right move for the Angels? They need to use that money to get some pitching. The mistake was not getting compensation for him.
David Schoenfield (1:09 PM)
I think they were afraid Hunter would have accepted the one-year deal. Considering he signed for two years, certainly seems a possibility since he obviously enjoyed playing there. So not sure I would label it a mistake. They just made the decision that they'd rather go with Trout/Bourjos/Trumbo.
Remember when people were wondering whether the Jason Bay deal was a smarter one than Matt Hollidays?
David Schoenfield (1:10 PM)
Mets fans would like to forget.
Why does 14o Ks translate to "passivity" issues? You don't know that he struck out looking.
David Schoenfield (1:10 PM)
Reports from scouts have cited that.
I have read the Braves are planning to non tender Jair Jurrjens. Wouldn't Jurrjens and Delgado to the Cubs for Alfonso Soriano (and about 14 million) be a good deal for both teams?
David Schoenfield (1:12 PM)
Hmm ... remember, Braves are very cost-conscious. As good as Soriano was in 2012, he also had a .289 OBP in 2011. I think I'd still prefer Delgado's upside over a $14 million Soriano.
The Angels simply cant give 600 At bats to Bourjos. I know he may be a better defensive CF that Trout. But he cant hit. At all. He had one decent year on offense, but has 1300 At bats in the minors proving he cant hit at all.
David Schoenfield (1:14 PM)
Hey, they also have Vernon ... oh, never mind. Bourjos doesn't have to hit much to be a decent player. Even with a .650 OPS, his defense is good enough to be a plus player overall.
JP (Columbus, OH)
David, regarding this whole Chapman-to-the-rotation deal, isn?t it reasonable to assume that he won?t be available for more than 140-150 innings in year 1, then maybe 20 more in year 2? At which point, he will then be eligible for free agency. In essence, I?m saying the Reds are grooming him to start for some other team in 2015 and won?t even get to use him in the playoffs unless they toyed with a 6-man rotation with Chapman/Leake rotating starts. I?ve hated the way the Reds have handled Chapman since day 1, and I?m growing more frustrated each year. What?s your take?
David Schoenfield (1:16 PM)
The way I read it, his earliest free agency would be 2017, so you would still get four years out of him as a starter. That said, I agree that they've completely mishandled him, to the point where you have to wonder if he should just remain in the bullpen. Good point about the innings though; if he IS a good starter, you certainly want to find a way to keep him ready for the playoffs. I think the Nationals taught us all the mistake there.
Hi David. Do you think the rumor of the Tigers signing Stephen Drew and sending Jhonny Peralta on his way is an upgrade for the Tigers worth even bothering with? Also, get back on the podcast soon -- that's an order!
David Schoenfield (1:18 PM)
I'm with you -- not really much of an upgrade and there's the risk that Drew won't be an improvement either offensively OR defensively. I do like the idea of adding another left-handed bat, but at least you know what you're getting with Peralta.
I'm a big fan of Giancarlo Stanton and would love to see him on any other team - do you see this happening? I've read that it doesn't make sense to trade him, since he's cheap, but I've also read that he'll bolt asap. His trade value is the higher than just about any other player in the league.
David Schoenfield (1:20 PM)
I know others have suggested that Marlins will have to trade him in the next 20 months. So they probably don't do anything this season. He still has four years of team control, so his value doesn't decrease much by waiting a year. In fact, outside of Trout and Harper, there probably aren't many players with better trade value than Stanton.
Despite where I currently live, I am a big Nats fan and I agree with you on Laroche. Between BJ Upton and Bourn who would be the better signing for the Nationals if they were going to sign one of the two?
David Schoenfield (1:21 PM)
I think Bourn. Leadoff hitter. Left-handed bat. Better center fielder. That would be some kind of defensive outfield with Harper/Bourn/Werth. I'm not a big Upton fan and realize he's younger than Bourn, but the OBP issues and inconsistency are problems for me.
Justin Upton in DC...what would they have to trade. Assume Morse is involved.
David Schoenfield (1:23 PM)
Arizona doesn't really have a spot for Morse. They have Goldschmidt at first and Kubel in left field and I don't see Morse playing right field. Not sure there's a match unless the Nationals start talking Ian Desmond ... which, theoretically, could be possible, with Espinosa moved to short and Lombardozzi playing second.
It seems when Dan Duquette is interviewed, he gives an indication that he sees the Orioles as a small market, Rays-like club as far as payroll goes. Doesn't the the revenue from MASN (including Nationals related revenue) give the Orioles resources to sign the big time free agent they seem to indicate they can't?
David Schoenfield (1:25 PM)
I don't know the revenue from MASN off hand. That's a good research project -- find the local TV contract value for each club. As far as revenue, the other issue for the O's is low attendance and, I believe, one of the lowest average ticket prices in the majors.
instead of saying Trout is the next Mays or Mantle, i say he is a combination of a young JR and Bonds. Over under on MVP's he will win? 3 is my guess
David Schoenfield (1:26 PM)
It will be interesting to see how long he holds his speed. He's a bigger guy than people realize and built pretty thickly. Anyway, over/under: Have to go 3.5. Only player to win more than three is Bonds.
Mike (San Diego)
Actually, Fangraphs did an article on TV revenues for each teams that was released today. good timing, huh? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dodgers-send-shock-waves-through-local-tv-landscape/
David Schoenfield (1:27 PM)
Excellent. I have to take a look. Thanks, Mike.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was saying the Cubs send 14 million per year along with Soriano for Jurrjens/Delgado. Jurrjens is about 9 million for the Braves, Soriano would be $4 million for the Braves. Cubs get pitching, Braves get cheap offense from depth.
David Schoenfield (1:28 PM)
Ahh, gotcha. Sure, that makes a lot more sense. So Braves move Prado to 3B, Soriano in LF and find a CF. That would work.
Jason (St Louis)
It's good the see the Yankees getting younger with the signings they've made so far.
David Schoenfield (1:28 PM)
40 is the new 38.
"Cost conscious" is a nice way to phrase it for the Braves. For the first time we have money to spend. Do you think it is better used overpaying for BJ Upton in a bidding war against the Phillies or trying to sign two mid-level quality outfielders?
David Schoenfield (1:30 PM)
Good question. Guess it depends on the mid-level guys or if you can get somebody like Soriano with the Cubs picking up the salary. As I said, I'm not a big Upton fan and would rather spend the money on Bourn, assuming it's similar.
What's the greater probability: Rangers putting Kinsler in left, or trading him or Andrus?
David Schoenfield (1:31 PM)
If I had to predict the Rangers Opening Day lineup in 2013, I think we see Kinsler in LF, Andrus at SS and Profar at 2B. Gentry/Martin is a fine platoon in CF (Gentry is true defensive whiz). Murphy DHs, so you get an offensive upgrade just by replacing Young. Maybe sign Adam LaRoche to play first base to upgrade over Moreland. Do all that, and you can replace Hamilton.
Evan's new Ray contract... good for Rays? a mistake? or first sign they are moving the team soon?
David Schoenfield (1:34 PM)
Good for both parties. Not without risk, but if Longoria stays healthy, very good deal for the Rays. They're not moving. Stuck in their current lease until 2027.
I agree with Borne being the better choice over BJ Upton. I have been a fan of the Nats signing him for years now, but I do not think Nats management is as fired up as I am. What are the odds you think the Nats will sign him?
David Schoenfield (1:35 PM)
I don't think there's an urgency to sign him -- Harper is fine in center field and potentially excellent there with more experience. Morse in LF or Morse to 1B and a Moore/Bernadina platoon is OK, and maybe you put money into a free agent pitcher to replace Edwin Jackson. Lots of options for the Nats and I have no idea which way they'll go. If I had to predict, I think they stick with Harper in CF.
JP (Columbus, OH)
David I hope you are right about Chapman - I am of the understanding that he's 3 years (2010,11,12) into a 6 year deal, but the sixth year is a mutual option for 5-6 million in 2015 which Aroldis would surely decline.
David Schoenfield (1:38 PM)
Six-year contract, but I believe his free agency is still contignent upon his major league service time. Cot's is unclear, but with just over two years of service time, I think they still control him for four more seasons.
Re: Rays Lease. Haven't owners left cities despite a lease that says otherwise in past? Too big a fee to pay, or just no one in Vegas or Carolina calling on a MLB team yet?
David Schoenfield (1:39 PM)
Here's a story from the Tampa paper. The lease seems pretty iron clad: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/article1223089.ece
Scott Feldman to the Cubs a good signing? Was solid prior to the knee injury in a major pitchers park right?
David Schoenfield (1:41 PM)
Yes, could work out. Leaves Texas (tough place to pitch), goes to NL Central, good SO/BB ratio. Definitely a guy who could have three good months and the Cubs flip him for a prospect.
John (Cincinnati, Oh)
Rumors are Reds offering 3 years to Broxton. At the rate he is getting fatter, will he fit in GABP the final year?
David Schoenfield (1:41 PM)
Slim. Wait, wrong word. Not a big fan of that signing. Not that Broxton is horrible, but Reds have plenty of bullpen depth, even if Chapman moves to the rotation. Spend the money on a center fielder!
As a Nats fan I fear the Bourn signing...who gets most (not all) of his value from his legs. I fear as he ages, he'll lose value fast. I'd do what you suggested and sign one of the mid level SP FA and then make a trade mid season if my 1b/CF isn't working out. Who knows Bernadina could be totally usable with 500+ ABs. So the question is: A. Sanchez, Haren, Marcum or Dempster.
David Schoenfield (1:43 PM)
Sanchez certainly the most expensive. Haren is a great one-year option if you ask me. The Nats are really only looking for a No. 5 starter and Haren unlikely to get more than a one- or two-year deal, but he could be a bargain.
Charles (San Jose)
RIP Marvin Miller
David Schoenfield (1:44 PM)
Indeed. It's really a shame he never made the Hall of Fame.
For the philly fans..... to make you possibly feel better about a BJ Upton signing.... i did unfortunate research that showed Philly's current hitting coach had BJ at a .270 + batting avg hitter..... so of course Rays let him go in 2009. Makes perfect sense.
Terry Ryan has stated that the Twins are interested in upgrading their staff via trades rather than free agency. Say Atlanta misses on Upton - what type of pitcher could the Twins get for Denard Span?
Kris G (Indy)
Wouldn't a trade of Jurrjens and make more sense for a player like Span from the Twins who is already low cost? What would be to much for a player like Span?
David Schoenfield (1:47 PM)
And Denard Span suddenly takes over the chat. Span is a very, very good player. Solid leadoff guy but a Gold Glove-caliber center fielder. And cheap. Three years at just over $18 million. In other words, maybe a perfect match for the Braves. Not Jurrjens, who basically has no value right now. Delgado, Teheran, maybe Mike Minor.
David, do you have a theory on why Marvin Miller never got into the HOF? It really seems like a no-brainer from the outside.
David Schoenfield (1:49 PM)
The main problem is the Veterans Committee went through several different incarnations in recent years and it wasn't clear WHO they were supposed to elect -- former players? Executives? Umpires? Negro Leaguers? But it was usually a mix of former players, writers and executives. Well, guess which ones never voted for him? I believe the last time he was on the ballot he fell one vote short.
David Schoenfield (1:50 PM)
There was a time in the '70s and to his retirement in the early '80s when owners really believe Miller was going to destroy the game. Of course that didn't happen. Both sides have grown enormously richer. You'd think at some point the owners would have realized Miller wasn't so evil. But the hatred took a lot of users to subside, so Miller never had the support from the former executives on the HOF committees.
Best possible options for the back end of the Jays rotation? Any value to trading Buck and/or Lind for a fifth or even a bullpen arm?
David Schoenfield (1:52 PM)
Not much value in Lind or Buck. What about Ryan Dempster returning to Canada? Although I believe he's from B.C. not Ontario.
David, can you clear up some confusion. It seems like Marvin Miller was a great advocate for the players, but how have his contributions to the game improved or hurt the sport from a fan's perspective? I've heard a lot of people suggest that his contributions have indirectly lead to higher ticket and concession prices at ballparks, and have hurt smaller market teams by making it nearly impossible for them to resign and keep the players they've drafted and developed.
David Schoenfield (1:55 PM)
Fair question. I'm not sure Miller made the game better or worse for fans. Ticket prices are a reflection of what owners believe they can get for them -- not merely a reflection of player salaries. What free agency proved in an indirect way is that there was much higher revenue possibilities in the sport than the owners of the 1970s perceived. Basically, many teams back then were mom-and-pop organizations, so I would argue baseball IS better for fans now -- better stadiums, better food, better fan experience, if that kind of thing matters to you.
David Schoenfield (1:56 PM)
As for re-signing players ... well, the Rays just signed Evan Longoria, so it's not impossible for small markets to sign their best players. I'm not saying it's a level playing, but it's also true that baseball has more parity now than it did in the '50, '60s and '70s, before free agency.
Why doesn't Span have more value? As long as the Twins have dangled his name out there, he can't be the happiest camper and I assume that if they got a serious offer by now he'd be on a new team.
David Schoenfield (1:57 PM)
Well, we don't know his value until/if the Twins trade him. Maybe the Twins value him very highly.
Jason (St Louis)
What would happen if the Rays broke their lease? Is it just a matter of paying the city off? It may be worth it to go somewhere that actally draws fans.
David Schoenfield (2:00 PM)
Well, the city would sue the Rays and MLB, I assume to the tune of hundreds of millions, or whatever lost revenue it could claim. Or you get what happened when the Pilots left Seattle after one year. King County sued MLB and MLB eventually settled the suit by giving Seattle another expansion club.
Jason (St Louis)
The game worse for the fans? What about the players? The reserve clause is almost as shameful for the game as segregation was.
Jon (Bozeman, MT)
David, since we are still having our Denard Span chat, would the Twins/Rays be a good trade match? If they can't get Myers, would Rays consider trading Hellickson for Span?
David Schoenfield (2:02 PM)
Not a bad match, four years of Hellickson for three years of Span. I suppose Rays will move Jennings to CF and look for a LF, however. Heard a Shane Victorino rumor.
Bob (Springfield, MO)
One benefit derived from Marvin Miller and the union is the year-round professional baseball player. Because he doesn't have to work in the offseason, today's baseball players are (mostly) in great shape and are at their peak performance all through the season, barring injuries.
David Schoenfield (2:02 PM)
True, good point. Who can forget Richie Hebner working as a grave digger?
Yeah, it was way better when the Yankees won 20 titles from 1923-1962. From 63-12 they have ONLY won 7 titles.
Could a package of Espinosa, Alex Meyer and Eury Perez be able to land Justin Upton? Could it at least be a starting point?
David Schoenfield (2:05 PM)
Hmm ... maybe sub in Desmond for Espinosa? I guess it depends if Arizona thinks Espinosa can play SS.
Mike (Mission Viejo, CA)
If (when) the dodgers sign Greinke, are they one ofthe World Series favorites? Kershaw and Greinke to go with that lineup would be scary. Not to mention the possibility of Sanchez and/or Hamilton.
David Schoenfield (2:07 PM)
I still see some question marks. Big hole at shortstop. Hanley Ramirez is good not great now. What's up with A-Gone. What about Crawford? Defense is a potential problem with Kemp/Ethier/Hanley/Gordon. Does Beckett have anything left? Certainly, that team could win 105 games, but I still see too many potential flaws to make them the clear World Series favorite.
I am already tired of the Cubs rebuilding...what's the point in signing mediocre players, hoping they have a good half season and trading them for mediocre prospects? The only way to get better under this system is to hope that you get lucky with a larger number of mediocre prospects, right? The advantage of having a large checkbook like the Cubs is to take advantage of teams who can't afford to lose their young players to FA and trade them early? right?
David Schoenfield (2:09 PM)
I mostly agree with this. I'm not sure Scott Baker and Scott Feldman are going to turn into anything. The problem is teams are pretty smart these days and know not to give up a good prospect for mediocre veterans. But, like you say, if you get lucky once or twice ...
Matt (Kansas City)
Would Lorenzo Cain, Johnny Giavotella, Jorge Bonifacio, Chris Dwyer, Mike Montgomery, and Bruce Chen be enough to land Giancarlo Stanton from a value and a Union standpoint?
David Schoenfield (2:10 PM)
No. You don't really see the poo-poo platter trades in MLB.
Kirk (The TC)
The Twins would have to get a combo of Delgado, Teheran, and Beachy (among other young pitchers in the org) to make that a good deal, though that Span for Hellickson (an IA boy) trade would look mighty nice as well. But with the Twins being so bullish on trading players anymore, what are the chances Span gets traded at all this offseason?
David Schoenfield (2:14 PM)
I don't get a good vibe on what the Twins are trying to do. Maybe they want to wait a year before doing anything big, let all their hitting prospects get a year closer to the major leagues to see what they have. So I'd less than 50 percent chance Span gets traded.
Jon (Bolivar, MO)
Any good baseball books to read this winter? Thanks for the time! It's always appreciated.
David Schoenfield (2:16 PM)
I'll do a post on this sometime soon. The Dirk Hayhurst and R.A. Dickey books were excellent. Marty Appel's "Pinstripe Empire" was a good history of the Yankees.
Fair trade - Paxton, Ramirez & Romero for Wil Myers?
David Schoenfield (2:18 PM)
That's James Paxton, Erasmo Ramirez and Stefen Romero of the Mariners. Ramirez looked very good down the stretch. Romero is a sleeper prospect, hit .347 at Double-A. Second baseman, although range there is maybe a question mark. Hmm. I kind of like it from both ends.
The comment about good baseball books has to merge with the comments about Miller and FA, to create a rec for "Crazy '08," right? Great read. And had no idea what a different game it was in those days.
David Schoenfield (2:19 PM)
I have that book sitting on my shelf here at work, actually. Yes, that's a good one. Came out a few years ago -- well, 2008 to be exact.
The Cubs need guys like Baker and Feldman in order to field a respectable team. Even if you're still going to lose more than you win, you want to at least try to compete. But I disagree that their trades in 2012 yielded mediocre prospects. Paul Maholm netted Arodys Vizcaino, who is almost certainly their best pitching prospect now. Christian Villanueva also looks good. They also signed Soler, traded for Rizzo and Wood, had a pretty good looking draft. I wouldn't mind seeing them go after Greinke, but I don't want them to spend money just to spend money, only to have it hamstring them when they're ready to contend.
David Schoenfield (2:22 PM)
Fair points. Remember that Maholm is signed through 2013, so he wasn't just a rental for the Braves. Vizcaino was a gamble of sorts, considering he missed all of 2012. I'm not sure you can call a guy who missed an entire season your best pitching prospect. We have NO idea what he'll be in 2013 and can't assume he'll be fine. I'm with you: Why not make a play for Greinke?
Jason (St Louis)
Travis Wood lol
Jeff (NY, NY)
Empty the truck full of arms in Seattle for Stanton?
David Schoenfield (2:23 PM)
No we're talking ...
Matt (Kansas City)
re:Rick Of course you like it Dave it's a poo-poo platter in favor of your team, lol. Seriously though, if the Rays and Royals talk Price instead of Shields because of the cheap team-friendly deal Shields is on what would it take other than Myers to land Price? Or here is a fun thought process, the Mariners decide to trade King Felix it would take Myers, _______, _______, and _______?
David Schoenfield (2:24 PM)
Mariners aren't trading Felix and Royals don't have enough to offer. And if the M's trade Felix, they're in the same boat as the Royals, trying to find pitching.
How does the Paxton - Ramirez - Romero deal satisfy the Royals desire for an established frontline starter?
David Schoenfield (2:25 PM)
It doesn't, but it gives them two young starters, one of whom IS already major league ready.
Call me crazy, but I think the Royals aren't getting close to full value of Myers by trading him for Lester or Shields. I'd much rather have that M's package.
Extra 2% by Keri is good read too. Beware though, if you like the Rays ... it just makes you mad.
David Schoenfield (2:26 PM)
Yes, Jonah's book is very good. Came out last year. I was thinking of books that came out this year (or that I read this year).
finn (New Zealand)
Why do teams continue to overpay in years and dollars , hamstring themselves years down the track and make the fan base eat the cost with higher ticket prices for a team that isnt performing? A-Rod,Wells, Soriano etc. Hamilton looks to be a good bet for this when he signs..
David Schoenfield (2:29 PM)
Two things: (1) Owners want to win and win now; (2) Most teams are rolling in cash and will still make money even with bad contracts; (3) You can still win with bad contracts (see the Giants and Barry Zito; (4) ticket prices are tied to public demand not payroll. If the Indians suddenly slashed all tickets to $10, would their attendance actually increase? Not all that much and revenue would drop dramatically.
Mark Buehrle (Igloo)
brb, have to go fire my agent for not getting me a no trade clause.
Tom (Diehard Brewers fan) (Madison, WI)
Lester to the Royals for Myers makes no sense. The Royals will still be bad the next 2 years, and then Lester leaves. Lester would need to go to a team on the cusp . . . like the Brewers. What players in its farm system could the Brewers offer for Lester?
David Schoenfield (2:30 PM)
Brewers have a pretty low-rated farm system right now. They do have something pitching prospects -- Taylor Jungmann, Tyler Thornburg, Jed Bradley, Wily Peralta -- that could be of interest.
I think any offer by the Mariners for Myers would have to include Tajuan Walker
What does a current GM care about 10 years down the rd? If he doesn't win now, he won't be around at that time.Let me ask the crowd this, can you put a dollar amount on what winning the World Series would mean to the Cubs franchise? Would be much more than whatever contract they sign.
Wouldn't Felix for Myers, Butler, Gordon & Montgomery be about right? Not saying either team would do it though...
David Schoenfield (2:32 PM)
The problem with bad teams trading with each other: They're bad because they have holes. So now the Royals have no offense and the Mariners have no ace. Doesn't help other team, unless you have prospects or free agents to step in.
Is Austin Romine ready to be a mostly full time catcher for the Yanks, at least defensively until Gary Sanchez is ready?
David Schoenfield (2:33 PM)
I think they Martin back. Don't see the Yankees going with a rookie catcher.
Why would the Red Sox trade Lester? Aren't they also trying to win now?
David Schoenfield (2:34 PM)
Red Sox seem half-in, half-out. Waiting for Jackie Bradley and Bogarts to join Middlebrooks as the next generation. On the other hand, they signed veterans Gomes and David Ross, which points to trying field the best team possible for 2013.
Delgado, Teheran, AND Beachy for Span? Pretty sure Wren and the Braves would slam the phone down on that one.
David Schoenfield (2:34 PM)
I think he said some combo of those three, not all three.
I don't want the Cubs to spend money just to spend money, but taking advantage of teams in financial trouble seems to make some sense (like Toronto). I think teams are now overvaluing their prospects...not all of them can be good, and trading top prospects for established younger major league players near free agency makes sense for teams who can afford to pay them before they hit the market.
David Schoenfield (2:38 PM)
Dave -- good point about teams overvaluing their prospects. I know I've read stories where people in the industry are now starting to say that as well. It's tough -- of course you want cheap, young stars and for the most part you need cheap, young stars (look at the Giants with Posey, Sandoval, Bumgarner), but not all your prospects are going to be stars. Most WON'T become stars. If you can properly evaluate your own farm system and make the right trades, you can content without having to buy expensive free agents. But nobody wants to make a mistake and trade away the wrong prospect.
Cubs fans have to be patient one more year. The lower levels of the minors look great. Upper levels not so much. I think you will see the Cubs begin to spend money next offseason. Right now, they aren't going to invest in anyone who costs them draft picks.
Should the M's go 4/$52 for Napoli? Don't they pretty much have to overspend on FA's until they're relevant again?
David Schoenfield (2:40 PM)
Napoli is intriguing, but if he wants to catch, he doesn't really make sense for Seattle. They have Jaso, who was the best hitter. Zunino looks like a stud and may be ready by midseason. So if you're signing Napoli, it's really as C/1B for 2013 and then a 1B/DH ... except once Zunino is ready, you probably move Montero to 1B and Jaso to DH. Or I guess you shop Montero and see if there's any interest.
The Cubs kind of remind me of the Blue Jays - they're just trying to gather assets right now, sign some veterans that can be traded at the deadline, but when the big move is available, I'm sure they'll pounce.
What exactly are my Mets doing? Besides ticking off fans. The are to cheap to pay Dickey? The mets will have a pretty good SP group next year and Wheeler in the wings. but the offense they have is borderline atrocious. If they dont sign Wright and Dickey they have to deal them now for prospects and go in full rebuild mode. And for that matter, why dont they sign Ike like the did Jon Niese?
David Schoenfield (2:41 PM)
Looks like they'll eventually sign Wright. I'd sign Dickey. He's just entering his prime! A Dickey/Harvey/Wheeler/Niese rotation could be a contending rotation in 2014.
Since the royals have six years of Meyers why not just keep him since he fills a need (replacing Jeff Francoeur) and simply wait a year to see if they can develop young pitching or sign mid level free agents like Edwin Jackson?
David Schoenfield (2:44 PM)
Here's my quick take on the Royals: Everyone is talking about them needing starting pitching, which is true, but the ONLY way they're going to contend is for Hosmer and Moustakas to develop into star hitters. It doesn't matter what they do with the pitching if those two (and Myers, for that matter) don't hit. And they have to show something this year. So I'd keep those guys and do what they're doing: Sign mid-rotation guys, hope the young hitters develop and you get lucky with am OK rotation and great bullpen.
Charles (San Jose)
2 D-back starting jobs to be split among Corbin, Bauer, Skaggs, and a veteran FA. Which way would you go?
David Schoenfield (2:45 PM)
Skaggs and Bauer -- plus you maybe have Hudson returning midseason.
Jason (St Louis)
Why don't we see challenge trades ever? Jurickson Profar for Oscar Taveras. Fills a need for both teams for the long haul.
David Schoenfield (2:48 PM)
I think what I just said: GMs don't want to make a mistake. I heard Cards GM John Mozeliak say an obvious but smart thing: You better be right on your own guys. He was discussing the Colby Rasmus trade. Everyone liked Rasmus as a future star. The Cards liked Jon Jay better. They made the right choice. So the Rangers wouldn't trade Profar because they KNOW him but don't know Taveras as well.
With Desmond coming off his best season, and with Lombardozzi looking like a possible solid regular, would trading Espinosa make sense for the Nats? Seems a package of Espinosa, Morse and Alex Meyer should be able to land them something of need. Thanks.
David Schoenfield (2:49 PM)
Lombardozzi is more utility IF than starter, but if the Nationals wanted to package all that, yes, it could get them something in return. But they also have money, so probably wiser for them to just buy a free agent.
David, how about a Starlin Castro/Mike Stanton trade? Two young players with great contracts (per Jonah Keri) and the Cubs have Baez lurking in the minors....
David Schoenfield (2:51 PM)
I think one of those two players will win an MVP Award at some point.
I keep hearing that the Greinke deal is going to shatter every pitcher contract short of Sabbathia, but everything I've read about Greinke over his career says he is far from your typical professional athlete. Of anyone out there, wouldn't you see him take the approach of knowing he's going to be filthy rich regardless and focusing instead on where he wants to play out his career?
David Schoenfield (2:52 PM)
Agreed. I think he'll go where he wants to pitch/live. Does anyone know where he lives in the offseason? Still in Florida? Well, I don't think he'll be going to the Marlins or Rays.
Marty (Fairfield, CT)
Dave, long time no chat! What's been the best and worst signing so far this off season? I say Kuroda signing is up there for best bc it's only a 1 year deal, and worst is Brandon League.
David Schoenfield (2:53 PM)
I didn't get the League signing at all. He's a pretty average reliever who lucked into Capital C Closer status.
Why don't players holdout like you sometimes see in the NFL?
David Schoenfield (2:54 PM)
NFL players have less leverage, so holding is sometimes their only option to get a new/better deal.
Anyword on when Pindea should comeback for Yanks? He will be a keep player for there rotation going forward.
David Schoenfield (2:55 PM)
I believe I read last week that he has resumed some kind of throwing program. I'm pretty sure he'll need time in the minors to (A) get healthy, (B) prove he's effective.
Why is everyone assuming the Marlins will trade Stanton? He might be the most valuable trade chip in the majors right now and under team control. Why should management care if he's mad? Playing bad will hurt him ($) more than the franchise. The Marlins trade players before they hit FA, but not this early.
David Schoenfield (2:56 PM)
Right. They're not going to trade him now. PLUS ... there's a good chance the Marlins could be competitive pretty soon. Maybe not 2013, but maybe 2014 and certainly 2015.
Greinke still lives in the Orlando area.
Also holdouts are extremely effective. Example 1 - Operation Shutdown. Not!
Re: Mets - Wright will be signed, Dickey traded. That is all.
David, what do the red sox do with their shortstop position for next-season? Who do you see starting/ending the season there? Thanks
David Schoenfield (2:58 PM)
Iglesias for one year? Waiting for Bogars to be ready in 2014? Rumored to be in on Stephen Drew, which I can see if Drew is willing to sign a one-year contract. Maybe they can lure J.D. out of retirement as well ... (groaning heard all the way from Boston).
Howie (West VA)
Can the GIANTS sign both Scutaro and Pagan or one or the other
David Schoenfield (2:59 PM)
They can afford both.
Yo DScho, you hear the older sister from That 70's Show got arrested for beating up her 61 year old husband? Man she looks rough in the pic, much hotter on the tv show.
David Schoenfield (3:00 PM)
And with that ... it has to be time to end the chat. Thanks, everyone. We'll be back next week. We should start seeing some signing next week during the winter meetings in Nashville. Until then, enjoy your baseball rumor mill.