Chat with Rich Cimini
Welcome to SportsNation! On Wednesday, ESPNNewYork.com writer Rich Cimini stops by to chat about the Jets.
Cimini, longtime Jets beat writer for the New York Daily News and a Syracuse University graduate, covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
Send your questions now and join Cimini Wednesday at 2 p.m. ET!
Rich Cimini (2:02 PM)
Hey, everybody, thanks for checking in on a rare Wednesday chat. I already have 67 questions lined up, so let's get to it.
Bilal (Jersey City)
I think the Jets have to go into this draft with the "don't screw this up mindset." Jarvis Jones has a medical condition and ran a poor 40, Dion Jordan won't be there, Cordarelle Patterson is Stephen Hill 2.0. All I'm saying is that they shouldn't reach for anyone at all. So the most sure thing player I see is G Chance Warmack. If you're in a total rebuild like the Jets wouldn't it be wise to build inside out?
Rich Cimini (2:04 PM)
I agree with some of what you're saying, but the Jets can't settle for Warmack because he's a so-called "safe" pick. They need to take the best player, period. Frankly, I don't think they should take a guard at 9, considering all their holes.
J. Dolof (NYC)
Rich, I'm a big an but your reasoning for why they would/could draft Mingo was horrific. You're forgetting that Irvin produced in college. Mingo didn't. I think it's insane to draft a guy in the top 10 that didn't dominate in college. Neither Mingo, Jordan, or Ansah did. The overwhelming majority of top NFL pass rushers dominated in college.
Rich Cimini (2:08 PM)
Thanks (I think), but I didn't say they SHOULD draft Mingo. I thought they would based on the mock that I presented. I agree with you -- production is key. That's why I'd stay away from Ansah -- too much of a risk at 9. Mingo didn't dominate, but his production was decent. Scouts tell me he was sometimes used as a "contain" rusher, basically playing an area so a mobile QB couldn't escape the pocket. That may have contributed a little to the low sack total.
In your scouting report of Mingo you seem to be concentrated on his elite speed. Well Maybin had elite speed and his burst off the snap is as good as it gets. But he's not that effective getting to the QB because that's all he does. Well the same is with Mingo. Why draft a guy that high? And at least Maybin had a dominant season in college. If Mingo's speed couldn't help vs. inferior college players, why will it work in the NFL? He's the pass rushing version of Stephen Hill.
Rich Cimini (2:09 PM)
You may be right, DMB. You have to be careful with players that work out well. Mingo comes with questions, no doubt.
yariv herman (Israel)
it seems that the Jets stopped looking for a QB via free agency after signing David G. do you think they are looking to draft a QB no later than the second round? can you see them as having enough patience to draft one in 2014? thanks
Rich Cimini (2:11 PM)
The Jets are holding a spot open to see what happens in the draft. I don't think they'll go out of their way to draft a QB, but if one they really like falls into their lap, they'd take him. If not, I could see them re-visiting Kolb after the draft.
IRA (Staten Island)
Rich, If the Jets sign Fred Davis who wouldn't be a bad signing once again they go after a player coming off an injury and ccan get them cheap. Think this will be Idzik's approach every year or just this year because of the cap problems he took on?
Rich Cimini (2:13 PM)
I think it'll be just this year, Ira. You can't survive that way every year. If you look at Idzik's old team, the Seahawks, they did make some big free-agent splurges -- Rice and Flynn, to name two. For now, it's all about finding hold-the-fort guys and building through the draft.
I thought Fred Davis really clicked as a possession receiver a few years back when Rex Grossman was the Redskins QB. Considering the Jets will run an offense similar designed where the QB will rely on high % throws and be in need of security blankets, shouldn't they go pretty hard after Davis?
Rich Cimini (2:15 PM)
If your definition of "pretty hard" means paying big bucks, no, that's not going to happen. THe man is coming off a major injury. If they wanted to spend a lot at TE, they could've kept Keller for $4.25 million. But, if healthy, Davis can be effective for the reasons you mention.
PETER JAMES (ABERDEEN, NJ)
Hi Rich--the Dolphins have had an active off-season especially compared to the Jets. What do you think of the moves Miami has made in terms of strengthening their roster? Thanks, keep up the great work
Rich Cimini (2:17 PM)
I thought Miami overpaid for Wallace, who I think has only three 100-yard games in the last 23 or 24. But look at their situation. They're trying to build around a young QB and they need weapons. They also need to excite an apathetic fan base. The Dolphins needed to create some buzz and I think they've done that.
John (Long Island)
Hello Rich - If the jets are serious about trading revis why haven't they signed any cbs in free agency? We all know how many cbs rex like to use in his defense. Is that something they would save for the draft?
Rich Cimini (2:18 PM)
They have two experienced starters in Cro and Wilson. They also have Lankster and Berry, with Trufant coming off an injury. I could see them adding a CB in the 3rd or 4th round if they trade Revis.
Tebow Tebow Tebow - Ive heard the MM is actually interested in TT and that Woody wants to give TT last shot...How much truth is in it Rich?
Rich Cimini (2:19 PM)
I'll buy you dinner, Peter, if Tebow is on the opening-day roster.
Gary (York, Pa)
Good Afternoon, What you hear about Jarvis Jones? I understand production but not fast, not strong and a 4-3 OLB size is a bad mix. Your thoughts?
Rich Cimini (2:20 PM)
Highly productive in college. Was allowed to freelance in the Georgia scheme, scouts tell me. You're right, he didn't run well. The medical is a concern. I wouldn't touch him at 9.
Soner Supurgeci (Phoenix, AZ)
Hey Rich,I think Tavon Austin would not only be a great fit in Marty Mohrtinweig's system, but also immediately electrify the Jet offense (much needed). Is he a reach at #9?
Rich Cimini (2:22 PM)
The "experts" would say he'd be a reach at 9, but I think the guy is a dynamite football player. You could play him at WR or RB. Most pundits have him somewhere in the middle of Round 1. Me? I'd strongly consider him at 9. He'd bring a lot of YAC to the offense.
Joey (Selden, NY)
Rich, What is the current cap figure, and what normally does a team carry over for the new season for injuries and what not?
Rich Cimini (2:23 PM)
The Jets have $13 million in cap space. Most teams leave a few million just in case. I'm sure that will be the case this year.
Why did the Jets resign Lex Hilliard, especially right when the Free Agency period started? Does this deal guarantee him a roster spot?
Rich Cimini (2:24 PM)
It does not guarantee him anything. They got him for the minimum salary, so it was a no-lose situation. Frankly, I'm not sure how he fit's Mornhinweg's offense.
Despite all the negatives, the Jets have upgraded their Offensive Coordinator and should be adding youth and speed on their aging defense and special teams. Do you agree with the consensus that the Jets will be one the worst teams in the NFL next year?
Rich Cimini (2:25 PM)
If the season started now, yeah. But they still have 5 months to work on the roster. No matter what happens, you will see a faster team on both sides of the ball. THat is an off-season emphasis.
If Carson Palmer shakes loose, any chance they jets would go after him? he would be a great fit.
Rich Cimini (2:26 PM)
I think he'd end up in Arizona.
John (Brooklyn, NY)
Rich,Why are the Bucs so hesitant with this years 1st RD pick? This is Revis we're talking about, injury or not!! Also wouldn't the Bucs benefit to keep their 2014 pick just in case Freeman unfortunately is not the answer?
Rich Cimini (2:27 PM)
It's all a big poker game, John. Eventually, the two sides will get serious -- at draft time.
Joey (Selden, NY)
Do you think our Dline needs to be addressed? Ellis is a question mark and has not developed at a consistent level, Garay is older and has a history of injuries. While we have two solid starters in Coples and Mo, Coples still has to prove if he is an every down llineman. It seems to get the best out of Mo and Coples , you need a competent and solid rotation. I don't see that right now?
Rich Cimini (2:29 PM)
Excellent points, Joey. I agree, Ellis is a question mark. So is Garay -- for a different reason. Here's an interesting question: If Star Lotulelei is there at 9, do you take him? If you think he can be another Haloti Ngata, how can you pass?
Rich, lets say the Jets get the Bucs' 13th overall pick in this years draft in the eventual trade for Revis. Do you think they stay there or trade down for additional picks?
Rich Cimini (2:30 PM)
I think the Jets will be HIGHLY motivated to trade down at every turn. Idzik will be in a stockpiling mode.
MJ (Tampa, FL)
Rich,Any Revis updates? PLEASE!
Rich Cimini (2:32 PM)
Things are quiet now. Reports of a trade happening before or during the league meetings proved to be false -- no surprise. Mark my words, things will perk up in the week or so leading into the draft.
Jesse (New Jersey)
Rich should the Jets give Ryan an extension? I thought he should have been fired but it makes no sense to get rid of his best player, and expect better results. It seems he would be philosophically opposed to what's going on and it will pull the organization in different directions. I'm sure by October when they're 1-4 we will get "leaks" about Rex is a victim of all this
Rich Cimini (2:33 PM)
I think Rex is handling this very well and I expect that to continue. One thing about Rex: He has what I call competitive arrogance. He thinks he can do anything or beat anybody. He'll need that attribute this season, that's for sure.
Hi Rich, As always, great job. I read everything you write.If you were Idkik would you - A. Trade Revis for TB #! pick in '13 (13th) B. Trade Revis for TB #1 and #22 in '14?C. Other
Rich Cimini (2:35 PM)
Appreciate that, Matt. First of all, I'd try to re-sign Revis for something reasonable -- $12MM per year. Failing that, I'd trade him for the 13th pick this year. I don't want their No. 1 in '14. It has to be this year.
Rich, please don't tell me they will take Hunt from SMU at 9.
Rich Cimini (2:37 PM)
No, I don't see that. But could be a second-round option. Remember, Bill, coaches and scouts aren't always thinking about first rounders. They pay a lot of attention to everyone. I attended the Stony Brook pro day last week and the 24 or so scouts there paid a lot of attention to guys that have no shot at being drafted. It's an information gathering business.
In retropsect, the Mangini firing looks like a big mistake and a typical impetuous decision by the current bufoon who owns the team. He clearly had a nice eye for personnel and Rex benefitted from same. He also had his hands tied a bit with the Fare acquisition. although he was a little too secretive, he deserves another shot.
Rich Cimini (2:39 PM)
You're right, Mangini had an eye for talent, the Gholston pick notwithstanding. I think Eric might have a future in somebody's front office, but I think he still prefers coaching.
Rich. Why arent the Jets considering Tavon Austin? The guy is the most explosive offensive player in the draft. And if memory serves me right, thats a huge need for my Jets. And i dont buy the jermey kerley argument nor that hes a slot player. Tavon is by far better than KErley and the nfl is a space game and Tavon can lineup amywhere. To me this is a no brainer, thoughts?
Rich Cimini (2:41 PM)
How do we know they aren't considering Austin? I think they absolutely should be. Look, I like Kerley, but I think Austin can be a Percy Harvin or a DeSean Jackson. The Jets need playmakers, period.
Rich, I am truly surprised the Jets let Keller, Landry and Bell go. They cleared enough money and they could have maneuvered the cap for Landry to put money into next season. Bell really didn't sign for big money. He could again have been a one year stop gap.
Rich Cimini (2:43 PM)
You make some good point, Rob. Bottom line: Idzik didn't think Landry was a $6 million-a-year safety. They could've structured his contract in a creative way, but he just didn't want him.
Is it possible this whole "Revis trade" was just a smoke screen. Seems to me since then Revis camp has humbled down, admitted he wants to stay on the team, and it doesnt seem his demands are in the Mario Williams ball park anymore. Could this have been leverage by the GM?
Rich Cimini (2:45 PM)
No, it's real, Joe. You're right, there has been a lot of smoke, most of it generated by the Revis camp. But it's the old saying: Where there's smoke ... Take my word, this isn't fiction. A trade is a real possibility.
Any chance the Jets take a flier on Lattimore (SC) with one of the compensatory picks?
Rich Cimini (2:46 PM)
The Jets didn't get any compensatory picks, but he's an intriguing guy. Heard he's a great kid. Might be worth a late rounder.
SouthernJet (Rich) (Raleigh/Chapel Hill, NC)
Jets GM Idkik was personally at North Carolina Tar Heels Pro Day yesterday. I doubt he flew there to scout 7th rounders. I am thinking as far as UNC guys, he was looking at OL Jonathan Cooper in 1st round and RB Gio Bernard and DL/NT Sylvester Williams with the 2nd round pick. I am assuming he was also looking at LB Kevin Reddick and OT Brennan Williams (Brennan was in Cooper territory last year before he injured arm late in season, could be a sleeper). A) You hear any rumors floating around Florham park for the UNC guys and B) does signing RB Mike Goodson take Gio out of Jets draft plans?
Rich Cimini (2:48 PM)
No, I think they're still in the market for a RB. It's not like they added AP. Gio is an interesting guy. Not sure how the JEts feel about him. I don't think they're enamored with the RB crop as a whole, but I'm not ready to lump Gio into that group.
I know Rex wants him to be, but do you think DeMario Davis is ready to be an every down player?
Rich Cimini (2:50 PM)
Ready or not, he'll have to be. I can say this about DD: He'll bring good intangibles to the table. Players told me last year that DD will emerge quickly as one of the leaders on D.
somehow if Parcells hasd this current group of qb's I doubt he'd be in a rush to dump Tebow. Great coached make it work like Bill did with ray Lucas. Ah, but we have a defensive coordinator masked as a head coach. Could you ever imagine Rex taking over play calling like Bill did in 1998 when he demote dCharlie WEiss?Ps great job.
Rich Cimini (2:52 PM)
You have a good memory, Mike. By '98, Bill already had -- what? -- 11 or 12 years of HC experience. Rex has only 4. Lucas and Tebow apples and oranges. First of all, I don't think Tebow is all that great as a running QB. He looked slow last year and he doesn't make great reads. He's a goner.
Glenn (New Jersey)
Hi Rich great job on coverage, never short on Jets news! I was wondering if you think that the Jets might give Vince Young a shot? I always thought that he had a ton of potential and I would love to see him rejuvenate his career in NY.
Rich Cimini (2:53 PM)
Fair question, Glenn. In another time, perhaps they'd be interested. I just don't think they want to take on that much baggage in a rebuilding situation.
Seems the new GM has almost kept the media shut out. No one really new we had interest in the DT and OG we signed, and it took a while before I even heard about a Fred Davis visit, is this all part of the teams new strategy moving forward.... silence?
Rich Cimini (2:54 PM)
I don't know about silence, but they'll be a lot less chatty.
Is the NFL still worried about holding the Super Bowl at MetLife?
Rich Cimini (2:54 PM)
Too late now. It's happening.
Hi Rich, the draft is finally around the corner and we may even be done with the snow. Do you think Idzik will make some changes in the scouting and personnel side of things after the draft is done ? I'm surprised that he has not brought in a single person, at least that I'm aware of. Thoughts ?
Rich Cimini (2:55 PM)
There will be changes after the draft. How extensive, I'm not sure.
Any chance that The Jets keep Tebow?
Rich Cimini (2:56 PM)
any chance of the new pope coming to my local parish to say mass?
Evan (Saratoga Springs, NY)
Rich, I like what Idzik is doing by being patient and letting players leave via free agency. When they trade Revis (and there will be other suitors beyond the Bucs there always are) between those additional picks and the compensatory picks they will receive next year they will have nice opportunity to restock. Its's this kind of long-term thinking the Jets have not engaged in for quite a while. What are your thoughts?
Rich Cimini (2:56 PM)
Agree. "Long term" was never in their vocabulary.
Drew @JETSerious (Perrineville, NJ)
Which NYJ draft day trade is more likely to happen... Jets trade up for Geno Smith or Jets trade down for Tavon Austin?
Rich Cimini (2:57 PM)
They're not trading up for Geno Smith. Trading down for Austin a possibility -- or grabbing him at 9.
Trevor Gill (Syracuse)
Hey Rich, love your stuff! Have the Jets reached out to revis at all to see what exactly he is looking for in a new deal? I know the 16 mil per year number keeps coming up but is that actually from revis or just the media? I know he wants big bucks but since Idzick is a cap guy you think there's anything creative he can do to lower the per year number through incentives or giving a lot guaranteed? It just bothersome as a season ticket holder that the Jets wouldn't at least reach out to their best player. Keep Revis!!
Rich Cimini (2:59 PM)
Thanks, Trevor. With Revis, it's all about avg per year. He's less concerned about the guarantees, but you're right, it's inexcusable for the JEts not to engage in serious discussions.
Mickey Braciole (Long Island)
Hey rich! You've answered me 2 weeks in a row! Maybe go for 3? I love the idzik approach. He's not overpaying and it looks like we can finally have a style of the packers/ravens/steelers/giants of drafting well and keeping our guys instead of overpaying for others. With that being said. Do you think it's time to talk extension with Mo Wilk? With Revis almost being out the door, I think Mo will become the face of the franchise. Any chance of Mo getting signed? Great work again Rich. We love your work! Go Jets!
Rich Cimini (3:00 PM)
Thanks, Mickey. By rule, they can't re-work Mo's deal until after the 3rd season.
Vin (Stony brook)
Rich how will the jets approach the draft? D they want a playmaker? A lb for the defense?
Rich Cimini (3:00 PM)
three needs: Playmaker. Playmaker. Playmaker.
Brett L (Hoboken, NJ)
Sidebar: Do you have Syracuse beating Indiana?
Rich Cimini (3:00 PM)
You have to ask?
Hey, Rich, have you heard anything about jets interest in Florida St. QB EJ Manuel & what are the chances that they trade down in draft?
Rich Cimini (3:01 PM)
I really like Manuel. Not sure if the Jets do.
Justin (North Carolina)
As a former Bulldawg, I think Alec Ogletree will be one of the best ILBs in the NFL in a couple of years. Are the Jets are interested in him, even with Davis and Harris in the middle?
Rich Cimini (3:02 PM)
Wouldn't happen with the 9th pick.
Rich Cimini (3:04 PM)
Sorry, folks, I'm out of time. That hour totally flew by. Sorry if I didn't get to your question. There's always next week. Keep it locked on the Jets blog: I'll be updating from now until the draft, bringing you the latest. Thanks. Take care. Rich