The NFL Players Association is filing a grievance over the NFL's suspension of four players in the bounty scandal. Do they have a case?
JustaFan2012: "I can't believe I am going to say this, but their arguments actually make pretty good sense and seem solid. That being said, it certainly doesn't send the message that they truly care about player safety."
Tyrion Lannister: "For the life of me I can't understand how the punishment for Vilma can be the same in terms of time as Payton. Isn't leadership supposed to take a larger part of the responsibility? If I'm a player I would not have spoken up during these 'pep talks' either."
BooDwyaneWade: "If they win, I wonder what other former cases might get brought up. I don't think many, but not all make big headlines."
hakmusic: "The former players should be suing the NFLPA rather than the NFL. The NFL is trying to make things better, the NFLPA is doing everything to get in the way of it. The NFLPA is in the wrong. period."
wadrules: "I disagree 100%! I am on the player's side on this one. I am not condoning the actions but the system that doesn't have the checks and balances in place to properly discipline players. As a regular person, I would not want a street cop to have that type of authority to be judge, jury, and executioner."
sabermetrics are still right: "Their arguments make sense but it does not exonerate them from 2011 actions. Goodell can simply change his mind and say, well now I think you deserve the season for what you did in 2011, Vilma. Your appeal is to me. Go blame your union."