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Tuesday, September 4
 
Mariners still lack the respect they deserve

By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com

We must be in some science-fiction reality warp. There's a team in our midst that's currently 60 games over .500 -- and it's not the favorite in Vegas to win the World Series.

Do not adjust your computer. You can check this yourself. We found two online oddsmaking sites this week that make the New York Yankees, not the Seattle Mariners, the favorites to be jumping up and down with a bunch of champagne bottles the week before Halloween.

The only focus on Seattle was in April, when they ran away. After that, people lost sight of what they've been doing. But I've seen them a lot, and this is a much better team than people give them credit for.
Phillies scout Gordon Lakey

Boy, is the gambling business fascinating, or what?

Except it's not just the people in Vegas who have this skepticism about the Mariners -- despite their record, despite their lead, despite everything they've done for five months. It's baseball people, too.

We've asked everyone we've talked to in the last week: If the playoffs started tomorrow, which team would you pick to win the World Series. It's amazing how many have not said "Mariners."

And as much as we understand that, we have this question:

If the Mariners' uniforms just said, "Yankees," on them, what would those World Series odds look like then? Would people even be having this conversation?

Our bet -- since we're into this wagering motif -- is: No way.

If the Mariners had moved to New York and played this season wearing pinstripes, we would wager our own shirts that they wouldn't be a 7-2 bet to win the World Series. They'd be more like a 2-7 bet.

But because they play in Seattle, because they've lost three supernova players who used to adorn their marquee, because they allegedly aren't "built for October," many, many people out there seem to think their season is some kind of five-month fluke.

Most wins, one season
Team Record Pct.
1906 Cubs 116-36 .763
1998 Yankees 114-48 .704
1954 Indians 111-43 .721
1909 Pirates 110-43 .724
1927 Yankees 110-44 .714
1961 Yankees 109-53 .673
1969 Orioles 109-53 .673
1970 Orioles 108-54 .667
1975 Reds 108-54 .667
1986 Mets 108-54 .667
1907 Cubs 107-45 .704
1931 Athletics 107-45 .704

Well, we don't know if they'll wind up winning the World Series or not, because, as Sparky Anderson put it recently, "that ball sure can bounce funny in October." But we do know this:

There's no such thing in this sport as a five-month fluke. This is a great, great team -- built for any month. And we've found at least one outside observer who agrees with us.

"I think people sell this Seattle team a little short," says respected, longtime scout Gordon Lakey, who covers the American League for the Phillies. "This is a team with no three-game losing streaks, that hasn't been swept in a series all year, that hasn't lost a series on the road all year. So I just think there's been a tendency to shortchange this ball club, just because they've made it look so easy."

And boy, have they ever. They were nine games up in their division by April 28. And they've played more than 100 games since the last time their lead was under double digits.

But that just makes what they have accomplished all the more amazing. Just consider the degree of difficulty of all this:

  • At 99-39, they're only the second team since 1909 to be 60 games over .500 after 138 games. (The other was the '98 Yankees.)

  • Since the 1954 Indians vanished into Willie Mays' glove, these Mariners are only the third team to get to 60 over at any point in any season. (The others were the '98 Yankees and '69 Orioles.)

  • If the Mariners beat the Devil Rays on Tuesday night, they'll tie the '98 Yankees for reaching 100 wins on the earliest calendar date in history. (The '54 Indians and '06 Cubs used to share that record, at Sept. 9.)

  • They've lost only one of their last 18 series and three of their last 29.

  • In the 11 games they've needed to win to avoid their first three-game losing streak of the year, they're 11-0, outscoring their opponents 78-34.

  • In the 11 games they've needed to win to avoid losing their first road series of the year, they're 11-0, outscoring the opposition 60-26.

  • And for the season, they'd outscored their opponents by 236 runs through Monday -- which puts them on a pace to finish the year at plus-277. No team except those '98 Yankees has been plus-250 since the '75 Big Red Machine Reds. No American League team other than the '98 Yankees has been plus-250 since the '69 Orioles. And no AL team besides the '98 Yankees has been plus-277 since the '39 Yankees.

    So on what basis could people possibly be doubting this club?

    "My feeling," Lakey said, "is that people haven't seen enough of them. The only focus on Seattle was in April, when they ran away. After that, people lost sight of what they've been doing. But I've seen them a lot, and this is a much better team than people give them credit for.

    "Ichiro makes that team run. They've got veteran players they can really depend on in Edgar (Martinez) and (John) Olerud. (Carlos) Guillen has been better at shortstop than he was at third. David Bell doesn't get the credit he deserves. (Mike) Cameron is a really good player. And on and on. But these are not front-page-headline guys. This is not a team of controversy. They just play."

    Do they have weaknesses?
    So what are their big questions? Let's go through them:

  • That they don't have "dominating" starting pitching? Their starting pitchers have a 3.88 ERA -- almost identical to Oakland's (3.86) and half a run better than the Yankees' (4.41).

  • That they're not good enough offensively? They've scored 778 runs -- 71 more than the Yankees, 50 more than the Athletics, 59 more than the Astros, 112 more than the Diamondbacks.

  • That they don't hit enough home runs? Well, they don't -- if you're playing Rotisserie ball. They're eighth in the AL, 19th in the majors in homers. But it isn't home runs that wins you the World Series. It's the ability to score runs against good pitching in resourceful ways. And no team does that better than Seattle.

    "There's been so much emphasis on Oakland's three starting pitchers (Hudson, Mulder, Zito) and so much emphasis on the Yankees' rotation with Clemens and Mussina," Lakey said, "that I think people view Seattle as maybe the epitome of the difference between a playoff team and a regular-season team.

    "But the fact is, Lou (Piniella) has a National League type of team that has the ability to manufacture runs. They're the best team in the league at doing the little things. They create opportunities to score runs that other teams don't."

    Matter of fact, it's amazing how much this team reminds us of the '98 Yankees -- at least in philosophy, if not in personality.

  • Both teams' offenses were based around working counts and high on-base percentages. (Both first in the league in that department.)

  • Both teams had overpowering bullpens. (Both first in the league in bullpen ERA.)

  • Neither lineup depended on the home run to score. (The '98 Yankees, in fact, had nobody who hit 30 home runs. These Mariners have only Bret Boone. And both clubs stole more bases than all but one club in their league.)

  • Both teams caught the ball and out-executed their opponents in the field. (The Mariners have committed the fewest errors in baseball. The '98 Yankees were fourth -- but second only to Atlanta among the eight playoff teams.)

  • And both teams are run by veteran managers who had won before -- and managed in the National League before.

    "In '98, Joe Torre played a National League brand of baseball," Lakey said. "And that's what Lou likes to do. Lou is an aggressive manager who loves to play that style, and he's got the team to do it.

    "I actually think one reason people have reacted to this team the way they have is the fact that Pat (Gillick) went on record as saying they need a No. 1 starter and they need a hitter. I think people read that and said, 'They may be short.' But I'm not so sure how short they are -- because Lou is a very good manager."

    Maybe this team doesn't have a starting pitcher who can win a postseason series practically by himself. But of its four full-time starters, all are at least eight games above .500. And with a bullpen as good as this club's, there's no reason it should ever get buried in a big game.

    So the oddsmakers can make those odds. And the doubter can crank up all those doubts. But if anybody out there really thinks this team isn't the equal of any we've seen in the last half-century, there's only one reason for that: You haven't been paying attention, friends. It's that simple.

    Jayson Stark is a Senior Writer at ESPN.com.







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