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Friday, November 9
Updated: November 12, 10:30 AM ET
 
Source: Clubs will draft from eliminated teams

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Lawyers will meet again Monday to discuss the legal fight by baseball players against eliminating teams, and a top union official called the owners' stance "preposterous."

Peter's picks
If contraction becomes a reality, one of the details that will have to be worked out is the dispersal of players from the two organizations that are being eliminated. There are reports that some major- and minor-league players could be relocated with Montreal owner Jeffrey Loria if he takes over the Marlins, which would limit the availability of the top players currently with the Expos. But, for amusement only, here's Peter Gammons' mock dispersal draft if all players from both teams were available (for more, click here):
1. Pirates: OF Vladimir Guerrero
2. Devil Rays: SS Cristian Guzman
3. Reds: P Javier Vazquez
4. Orioles: LHP Eric Milton
5. Royals: RHP Joe Mays
6. Brewers: 3B Corey Koskie
7. Tigers: 2B Jose Vidro
8. Rockies: OF Torii Hunter
9. Rangers: P Brad Radke
10. Marlins: OF Mike Cuddyer
11. Angels: RHP Tony Armas Jr.
12. Padres: SS Orlando Cabrera
13. Blue Jays: RHP Adam Johnson
14. Mets: 1B Doug Mientkiewicz
15. Red Sox: RHP Carl Pavano
16. Phils: LHP Eddie Guardado
17. Chisox: 2B Henry Mateo
18. Dodgers: RHP Scott Strickland
19. Cubs: RHP Rick Reed
20. Indians: OF Mike Restovich
21. Braves: LHP Brad Thomas
22. Yankees: RHP Guillermo Mota
23. Giants: LHP Johan Santana
24. A's: OF Brad Wilkerson
25. D-Backs: 2B Luis Rivas
26. Mariners: OF Jacque Jones
27. Astros: CF Wilken Ruan
28. Cardinals: LHP Juan Rincon
Avaliable in Round 2:
  • Montreal: 3B Fernando Tatis, CF Peter Bergeron, RHP Zach Day, C Michael Barrett, RHP Troy Mattes, LHP Graeme Lloyd, RHP Britt Reames.
  • Minnesota: OF Bobby Kielty, OF Brian Buchanan, C A.J. Pierzynski, RHP Kyle Lohse, RHP LaTroy Hawkins, RHP Grant Balfour.
  • In Chicago, a management labor lawyer told general managers that contraction would take place by Dec. 15, according to a high-ranking team official who spoke on the condition he not be identified.

    The lawyer, Frank Coonelly, said clubs would draft players from the eliminated franchises in the reverse order of their 2001 won-lost records and that management did not intend to honor no-trade clauses, the team official said.

    "To the extent that anything like that is out there, that would be a contemplated proposal," said Rob Manfred, the owners' top labor lawyer.

    Owners voted Tuesday -- exactly 100 days before the start of spring training -- to eliminate two teams before next season. While no teams were chosen, Montreal and Minnesota are the leading candidates, with Florida, Oakland and Tampa Bay also possibilities.

    If the Expos and Twins are eliminated, Montreal outfielder Vladimir Guerrero would be the likely first pick, going either to Pittsburgh or Tampa Bay, which both went 62-100. Twins shortstop Cristian Guzman and pitchers Eric Milton and Brad Radke would be other top picks, along with Montreal pitcher Javier Vazquez.

    Gene Orza, the union's No. 2 official, said Friday that management negotiators previously informed the players' association that it was too late in the year to eliminate teams.

    "What we were told in late September was that it was not possible to do it 2002," Orza said. "Our basic argument is that the basic agreement and its related agreements read as a whole cannot possibly be read to mean that on Nov. 7 you can announce that two teams aren't going to be playing anymore on Feb. 15. That's an inherently preposterous proposition."

    Manfred declined to comment on Orza's remarks.

    Additionally, union head Don Fehr said he was given a personal assurance in late September, by a senior official in the Commissioner's office, that it would be virtually impossible to consider contraction in the wake of the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington.

    Fehr told ESPN's Bob Ley that a month later -- on Halloween Night at the World Series -- commissioner Bud Selig told him that owners might consider contraction, and that before Game 7 last Sunday Fehr was told a vote would take place at their owners meetings. The entire interview with Fehr will be seen on ESPN on Sunday morning, on Outside the Lines.

    The union filed a grievance Wednesday arguing the move violated its labor contract, and it appears likely arbitrator Shyam Das will have to decide. Owners claim they have the unilateral right to fold franchises, but admit they must bargain over the aftereffects, such as dispersing players.

    "We're going to meet on Monday to discuss the processing of the grievance," Orza said. "Hopefully, we can get this on the fast track."

    The sides met Thursday, a day after the expiration of the labor contract signed in March 1997, and management lawyers outlined their ideas without going into specifics.

    "We have to get a proposal on the effects," Orza said. "Our effects bargaining is going to go on simultaneously with the processing of the grievance."

    Baseball commissioner Bud Selig says he intends to pick the two candidates for contraction by the end of this month. It's still unclear how long negotiations will take.

    "You can't negotiate the number of hours in a day," Orza said.

    In Washington, Rep. John Conyers Jr. again criticized baseball owners. Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Paul Wellstone, a Minnesota Democrat, intend introduce legislation next week to strip baseball of its antitrust exemption.

    "I was shocked and amazed to learn that less than 48 hours after one of the greatest World Series in history, the owners decided to cut the heart out of the baseball fans of America by agreeing to the first franchise elimination in more than 100 years," Conyers said. "I expect that our legislation will enjoy widespread support. Congress is not going to sit on their hands while a bunch of billionaires conspire with each other to cut jobs and threaten our cities and states."

    Rep. Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat, introduced legislation Thursday aimed at giving communities more of a say if owners try to eliminate or relocate teams. The "Give Fans a Chance" bill would require teams wanting to leave or fold to give at least 180 days notice prior to the start of the next season.

    Citizens would have time to weigh in with public comment. The league would have to respond if a local group came up with an offer to buy the team.




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