Owner Paul Dolan says Cleveland Indians to keep name through 2021 season

CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Indians are changing their name -- they just don't know to what or when.

Expressing that "it's time," owner Paul Dolan said that after months of internal discussions and meetings with groups, including Native Americans who have sought to have the team stop using a moniker many deem racist, the American League franchise is dropping the name it has been known by since 1915.

In an exclusive interview with The Associated Press on Monday, Dolan said: "The name is no longer acceptable in our world."

Dolan said the team will continue to be called the Indians until a new name is chosen.

That "multistage" process is in its early stages, and the team will play -- and be branded -- as the Indians at least through next season.

"We'll be the Indians in 2021, and then after that, it's a difficult and complex process to identify a new name and do all the things you do around activating that name," Dolan said. "We are going to work at as quick a pace as we can while doing it right.

"But we're not going to do something just for the sake of doing it. We're going to take the time we need to do it right."

Dolan said the team will not adopt an interim name until choosing its new one.

"We don't want to be the Cleveland Baseball Team or some other interim name," he said. "We will continue to be the Indians until we have identified the next name that will hopefully take us through multiple centuries."

Cleveland's move away from being called the Indians follows a similar decision earlier this year by the NFL's Washington Football Team, which was previously known as the Redskins.

"It was a learning process for me, and I think when fair-minded, open-minded people really look at it, think about it and maybe even spend some time studying it, I like to think they would come to the same conclusion. It's a name that had its time, but this is not the time now, and certainly going forward, the name is no longer acceptable in our world," Dolan said.

As Cleveland considers options, Dolan said the name 'Tribe,' which has been a popular nickname for the club for decades, has been ruled out.

"We are not going to take a half-step away from 'the Indians,'" he said. "The new name, and I do not know what it is, will not be a name that has Native American themes or connotations to it. Frankly, [Tribe] would have been a name that I would have loved to pivot to. But in talking to these groups, they made it very clear that the issues that are attached to the Indians don't go away with Tribe, particularly since Tribe has been tied to the experience of our team for many, many decades," he said.

The decision was welcomed by Native American groups that met with the club.

"The team made a genuine effort to listen and learn," said Cynthia Connolly, executive board member of the Lake Erie Native American Council in the Cleveland Indigenous Coalition. "We hope this serves as a blueprint for other professional teams and the 200-plus high school teams in the Ohio area. If there is a school or team that truly cares about fighting racism, these mascots cannot coexist."

The name change is the latest by an organization reacting to a national movement, which gained momentum in the wake of widespread civil rights protests over the summer, to have prejudicial names and symbols removed.

Across the south, Civil War monuments were taken down and, in some cases, names were taken off buildings.

Houston Astros manager Dusty Baker agreed with the Cleveland decision.

"I spent a lot of time with the Native Americans, especially the Cheyenne tribe in Montana, and I grew up with a lot of Navajo kids in Southern California," he said. "And so I think that it's apropos. And it's as good for the times, and it's been a long time coming."

Dolan said his "awakening or epiphany" came following the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died while being arrested by white Minneapolis police officers this summer.

He empathizes with a segment of Cleveland fans who will be displeased with decision.

"I fully understand it," he said of expected backlash. "I consider myself a fifth-generation Clevelander. It's in our blood, and baseball and the Indians are synonymous, and that goes to the whole intent-versus-impact thing. Nobody intended anything negative by our attachment to the name Indians, but the impact has been tough."

Cavaliers forward Larry Nance Jr. grew up in the Cleveland area and has always followed the Indians. He said the change is overdue.

"To me, if the Native American people don't appreciate that name, then it's time to go," Nance said. "I'm not just a fan of the Cleveland Indians, I'm a fan of Cleveland baseball. If they change their name to whatever it may be, the Spiders, the Guardians, whatever it is, I'm still going to be a fan.

"Just because they changed the name doesn't mean I stop loving the players, stop loving the manager. If it makes a group of people feel less marginalized, then I'm all for it," he said.

The Washington Football Team dropped its old nickname in July after bowing to pressure from corporate sponsors.

It was only hours later that Dolan announced a thorough review of the team's name. He promised to listen and learn, and that's what transpired in recent months during discussions with fans, business leaders, players, social activists and researchers focused on Native American culture and issues.

Dolan called those conversations "both enlightening and challenging."

He added there's a delicate balance between moving ahead and looking back.

"We are going to honor our past," he said. "We're not walking away from our past. We'll be the Cleveland Indians of 1915 to whatever year is that we ultimately change. We will always celebrate that. I don't think we have to ignore it.

"But from the day we make the change, the new history that we build together as a community with our team will be under the banner of a different name."

Cleveland's name change comes on the heels of the team removing the controversial Chief Wahoo logo from its caps and jerseys in 2019.

The team has never stopped selling merchandise bearing the grinning, cartoonish figure, but Dolan said any profits from future sales of Wahoo items will go to Native American organizations or causes supporting Native Americans.

Dolan's family bought the Indians in 2000, and even then, he knew Chief Wahoo "was problematic." It was only after this summer's movement and in educating himself on Native American issues that he recognized Indians in the same light.

"There is definitely some pain in this. It's the end of an era or the beginning of an era. But accompanying that is the recognition and maybe even excitement that we're going on to do something that is better. It will be better for the community. It will be better for our team. And it will be something hopefully that unites everybody. It's not anything that we have to feel any kind of reluctance about expressing," he said.

"It's going to take some time for everybody to embrace, but I think when they do, we'll all be better off for it."