No new proposals from union, league expected

TORONTO -- Seventy-five NHL players met with union leaders
Tuesday to get an update on a lockout that shows no sign of ending.
Among those players was Montreal's Pierre Dagenais, who has said he
would be willing to disobey the union and accept a salary cap if
that would help settle the lockout.

Dagenais, one of a few players who have criticized the union's
position, said he found the meeting informative -- but did not
retract his comments.

"I think everyone knows what I said. I just came here to learn
a little bit more. I did learn," the Canadiens forward said.

The meeting at an airport hotel was billed as a routine update
on the labor dispute so player representatives could brief their
teammates. But the meeting took on greater importance following
recent comments by disgruntled union members Dagenais, Mike Commodore, Brian Pothier and Rob Ray.

San Jose Sharks forward Vincent Damphousse, a union vice
president, invited Dagenais to the meeting. He said Dagenais is now
on board.

"I'm very confident that all the guys are on board,"
Damphousse said.

The players met for about four hours Tuesday, after having
dinner together on Monday night. The meeting included player
representatives from all 30 teams and other players who wanted to

NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow said there was no "crack
or divisiveness" in the union. He said no new proposals would be
made to the league as a result of the meeting. He's waiting for the
league to make a new proposal.

"I'm hopeful that there will be a season, but I have to tell
you, there's a good chance there won't be," Goodenow said.

Bill Daly, the NHL's chief legal officer, said no new proposal
would be forthcoming from the league. He said the union's latest
offer wasn't that different from a proposal they rejected 15 months

"We certainly don't feel it's incumbent on us to offer anything
new at this point," Daly said.

The NHL regular season was due to begin Oct. 13, but games are
being canceled by teams on a 45-day rolling basis.

During the last negotiating session in Toronto on Sept. 9, the
NHLPA proposed a luxury tax-based system that was rejected by the
league. The NHL wants a system that guarantees "cost certainty,"
which the Players Association says is akin to a salary cap -- a
solution it refuses to accept.

St. Louis Blues defenseman Chris Pronger said he's waiting for
the league to make the next proposal.

"We're still waiting for a response. I'll wait two years if
they don't want to give a response," he said.