USMNT's Berhalter on Mexico: Two trophies didn't seem to have earned their respect

CINCINNATI -- United States men's national team manager Gregg Berhalter says that his side still has "a long way to go" to get the respect of rival Mexico.

Speaking to reporters on a Zoom call ahead of Friday's World Cup qualifier between the two longtime rivals (stream LIVE on ESPN2, 9 p.m. ET), Berhalter said the two victories the U.S. enjoyed over Mexico last summer -- in the CONCACAF Nations League and the CONCACAF Gold Cup finals -- have done little to change Mexico's perception of the U.S.

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"When you hear things coming out from their camp, that we want to be [Mexico], where we're looking at some mirror that's Mexico and we want to see ourselves or something like that, it shows that we have a long way to go to get the respect of Mexico," Berhalter said. "The two victories in the summer I guess didn't do a lot to get that. We're going to have to do it [on Friday] by our play on the field."

Earlier this week, El Tri goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa told TUDN: "Mexico was the mirror in which the [U.S.] wants to see itself and wants to copy" while adding the pressure is on the U.S. to win at home, rather than on Mexico breaking a two-game skid in the rivalry.

Berhalter revealed that Christian Pulisic won't start the match after making a recent return from an ankle injury, while Zack Steffen will start in goal ahead of Matt Turner.

Pulisic injured his ankle during the World Cup qualifier against Honduras in September, and has made just two substitute appearances for club side Chelsea since then. Chelsea manager Thomas Tuchel mentioned recently that he hoped Berhalter would be "responsible enough" with his use of Pulisic, a plea that left Berhalter bemused.

"He's been training for four days [with Chelsea], and common sense is going to tell us you can't start a guy in a game like this when he's only been training for four days, and he's been out for two months," Berhalter said. "I understand Tuchel's concern. Our idea wasn't to play him 180 minutes in this trip anyway. He's not going to start [Friday]."

As for Steffen, the Manchester City keeper has made just four league and cup appearances this season as the primary backup to Ederson, while Turner has been playing every game for the New England Revolution. Yet Berhalter opted to go with Steffen, whom he managed previously when both were with the Columbus Crew.

"They're both great goalkeepers, no question about it," said Berhalter. "We've seen that in camp this week. Zack is going to start the game [Friday]. But you know, there's very little separating them at this stage and we could just as easily went with Matt. We decided to play Zack."

Much has been made about the U.S. team's choice of venue. The U.S. Soccer Federation has acknowledged being strategic, aiming to ensure that the crowd is pro-U.S. by placing the game in a smaller stadium and in a city farther way than some other locales with large Mexican-American populations.

"We take pride in having Latino fans and that's something that's important to us and we hope that in the future guys like Ricardo Pepi will help us get more Latino fans," said Berhalter. "When you're talking about a World Cup qualifier, it's really important to have a pro-U.S. crowd, and whether that's with Latinos in the stands or not, we want a pro-U.S. crowd and it's not always easy to ensure that."

Mexico figures to have a sizable advantage in experience, one that Berhalter acknowledged his side can't make up. He estimated that Mexico's average age will be 29 while the U.S.'s will be closer to 22 or 23. But he hopes that the experience his side has gained in recent years -- including four matches against El Tri -- will be enough.

"We've learned from that game, and it's important that we're taking all those lessons on board as we prepare for [Friday] night."

As for Mexico, El Tri manager Gerardo "Tata" Martino said that he is focused on the winning and breaking the two-match losing streak to the U.S.

"We've looked at the games against the U.S. and we've worked on doing things differently. We never think of not winning or playing for the draw," Martino said. "Set pieces were a big factor in the previous games, it is how they won those matches."

As for the location of the match being a factor to limit Mexico fans, Martino added: "We always feel the support of Mexicans, in whichever place that we play."